You taking offense to a meme is ridiculous!
I'm just responding to you, no need to go and imagine I'm all caught up in some emotional state.
You know nothing of my intent other than assumptions.
And your measuring one’s heart by your perceived notions is error.
Again, from the words of Jesus, "out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks." It's no stretch to understand that the way a person speaks, and the things they say, show what they are like.
Above, you assume I've "taken offence" because I've pointed to something, and you ridicule it in the same breath. Speaking of assumptions. Naturally you don't really know me, so you'll have to take my word that this is not an emotional discussion. These things are elementary to me, and I don't mind repeating them, as repetion can be very beneficial.
I don't mind engaging with you, even under these terms, in the hope that good will yet come. Metacommunication like this can often aid in being able to understand others better. If that's what we want. Sometimes, it's not, if we are being honest with ourselves.
I’m more offended that you guys twist the Holy Bible!
Once again, I'll ask that you simply accept what these passages say, without changing their statement because of what you think other passages mean.
These are very straightforward and easy to understand.
Colossians 3:1-4 KJV
1)
If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2) Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3) For
ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4) When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then
shall ye also appear with him in glory.
IF this is you, that you be risen with Christ - now, then you shall also appear with Him in glory - then.
Do you believe the plain statement of this passage? Yes or no??
Another:
1 John 3:1-3 KJV
1) Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2) Beloved,
now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but
we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3) And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
Are you a son of God? Do you then in fact know that when He shall appear, that you shall be like Him? That's the plain and staightfoward statement from the Bible. Is it true?
Another:
Philippians 3:20-21 LITV
20) For
our citizenship is in Heaven, from where we also wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,
21)
who will transform our body of humiliation, for it to be conformed to His body of glory, according to the working of Him to be able even to subject all things under Himself.
IF your citizenship is in heaven - now - He will transform your body to be like His - then. This is the clear and straightforward statement of this passage. Yes or no, do you believe it?
These all make the same kind of statement, that if a certain condition exists now (we're raised with Him, we are God's children, our citizenship is in heaven) then there is a certain outcome that will happen then (we appear with Him, we become like Him, our body is transformed to be like His).
These are simply statements proclaiming these truths, and the only way to understand them as saying something diffenent is to assume qualifications not given in the text.
Example
Philippians 3:20-21 LITV
20) For
our citizenship is in Heaven, from where we also wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,
21)
who will transform our body of humiliation, for it to be conformed to His body of glory,
unless your citizenship in heaven should cease, according to the working of Him to be able even to subject all things under Himself.
(this part added for effect, and does not appear in the Bible)
Unless we are to add a part that isn't there, then the statements are as I've said. I'm just repeating the words Paul wrote.
Where is the twisting you claim? Show it. I'm quoting to you Scripture, and pointing to what it says. The Bible says these things, not me. If you think they are mistranslated, show me why you think that so. I'm receptive to a valid argument. Otherwise, why not accept what they say?
Much love!