Matthew 27:50-53
50 But Yeshua, again crying out in a loud voice, yielded up his spirit.
51 At that moment the parokhet in the Temple was ripped in two from top to bottom; and there was an earthquake, with rocks splitting apart.
52 Also the graves were opened, and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life;
53 and after Yeshua rose, they came out of the graves and went into the holy city, where many people saw them.
Matthew's account puts it both ways. The last thing Jesus said on the Cross was, "It is finished". That it takes physical days to deal with souls, since in Peter spirit is not about God or our spirit, but about about vapors or physical shapes under ground, is not the point.
If there are physical bodies under the earth, is not my argument. There is a place under the earth, cause the earth is flat, but I doubt you want to get into that point. If you accept spirits are in the non-solid core of a planet, Peter could have been pointing that out. It would be a figurative description, not a literal tangible event.
First thanks for the reply. Not saying that you're right or wrong, but what was finish, was the OT. and the Law. a NEW Way to God is established. now as to souls, and spirit, (which is of God), the bible is crystal clear.
Ezekiel 18:3 "As I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel."
Ezekiel 18:4 "
Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine:
the soul that sinneth, it shall die."
NOW VERSE 9,
"Ezekiel 18:9 "Hath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal truly; he is just,
he shall surely live, saith the Lord GOD."
Now one more fact, God can destroy a soul in hell.. and David asked God not to leave his Soul in hell, Psalms 16:10 "For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption."
and to understand this, Ephesians 4:8 "Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men."Ephesians 4:9 "(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?", not in body, for David sepulcher was still here on earth. Acts 2:29 "Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried,
and his sepulchre is with us unto this day." NOW VERSE 34 Acts 2:34 "
For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand," so this rules out anyone in heaven when you die.
for the Lord knows how to perserve, or reserve us, 2 Peter 2:9 "The Lord knoweth how to
deliver the godly out of temptations, and
to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:" now here's something interesting. this word "reserve" here is the Greek word,
G5083 τηρέω tereo (tee-re'-ō) v.
1. to guard (from loss or injury).
2. (properly) by keeping the eye upon, i.e. to note (a prophecy).
3. (thus, figuratively) to fulfil a command.
4. (by implication) to detain in custody.
5. (thus, figuratively) to maintain.
6. (by extension) to withhold for personal ends.
7. (thus, figuratively) to keep unmarried.
{differs from G5442,
which is properly to prevent escaping; and from G2892, which implies a fortress or full military lines of apparatus}
[from teros “a watch” (perhaps akin to G2334)]
KJV: hold fast, keep(- er), (pre-, re-)serve, watch
and LOOK at the term for "PRISON" where these spirit was in 1 Peter 3:19.
G5438 φυλακή phulake (f ï-la-kee') n.
1. a guarding.
2. (concretely)
guard (the act, the person).
3. (figuratively)
the place, the condition.
4. (specially) the time (as a division of day or night).
{literally or figuratively}
[from G5442]
KJV: cage, hold, (im-)prison(-ment), ward, watch
but also this word "RESERVE" here in,
1 Peter 1:4 "To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,"
it's the same definition in 2 Peter 2:9 "The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to
reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:" G5083 τηρέω tereo (tee-re'-ō) v.
so in conclusion, 1 Peter 1:5 gives us the answer, "
Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.". so no one is in heaven, dead or alive, as to us humans. for if its in RESERVE, then we don't yet have it NOW, (that's why we wait in Faith/hope).. and again, 1 Peter 1:4 "To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away,
reserved in heaven for you," and salvation is not until he returns.
so what's in heaven, is not you and I but what's there await us. and the only thing that is of us in heaven is our spirits, which came from GOD. but understand this, God is not just in heaven, he's everywhere, even in HELL, supportive scripture, Psalms 139:7 "Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?"
Psalms 139:8 "If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there:
if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there." (JUST WHERE THOSE WHO WAS IN
DISOBEDIENCE, PRISON)
Psalms 139:9 "If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;"
Psalms 139:10 "Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me."
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