Opinions about arrogance

[Miss Hepburn]

Do you know what I've noticed...and I'm talking of myself here, not others. It's that whenever it's pointed out that I'm wrong...in thought or deed, my very first reaction is defence and anger.

I always know they are incorrect so I never get riled up in anyway.
They're stupid, that's all...God bless 'em.

Ha!


I have too much confidence to care if someone points anything out ---if I really am doing or thinking something
incorrectly - I am major open to learn ---I actually know I'm kinda dumb all at the same TIME!
Go figure..

So I have confidence in myself and yet - my ego is not really that big in me to not be corrected.


Try me - tell me I'm wrong and all screwed up....dare ya....

Besides, life is too short to care if someone corrects me...and I'm way
too old for that combative nonsense.

Rach, did you feel anger when I said that? It wasn't meant for you, just in general.
People get riled up when I don't care what they say , I must admit, it is fun to watch

Again

 

[goodshepard55]

Miss Hepburn...I am almost falling out of my chair....you must be a GRITS....it is so much fun to watch when we can get to the point that we just answer people with the few words God will give when they are hell bent on destroying our opinions....Miss Hepburn you are such a delight and I am always delighted and a little awed at some of your post...Thank you

 

[Rach1370]

I always know they are incorrect so I never get riled up in anyway.
They're stupid, that's all...God bless 'em.

Ha!


I have too much confidence to care if someone points anything out ---if I really am doing or thinking something
incorrectly - I am major open to learn ---I actually know I'm kinda dumb all at the same TIME!
Go figure..

So I have confidence in myself and yet - my ego is not really that big in me to not be corrected.


Try me - tell me I'm wrong and all screwed up....dare ya....

Besides, life is too short to care if someone corrects me...and I'm way
too old for that combative nonsense.

Rach, did you feel anger when I said that? It wasn't meant for you, just in general.
People get riled up when I don't care what they say , I must admit, it is fun to watch

Again

Your totally wrong and screwed up.



Nope, didn't get angry, not at all! I think if someone was to get riled up any time someone disagreed with them in any way, then being on this forum might just push them over the edge!
Honestly, I'm grateful when the Holy Spirit convicts and corrects me...it means He cares enough to keep working at me!
As far other people, well, there is total wisdom in what you say Miss Hepburn. If people correct you in love, it becomes a caring action. If people just like to prove your wrong to make themselves look right...well, we should just ignore them.
I think the whole "I've gotta be right" and "your wrong" is just a bit stupid anyway....it should all just be about the truth. And that truth is Jesus!!

 

[Miss Hepburn]

Your totally wrong and screwed up. Made me belly laugh,


If people just like to prove your wrong to make themselves look right...well, we should just ignore them. I do and take another sip of my Martini.

Shep, you're so cute.

 

[Groundzero]

After being referred to as pompous and arrogant by a member of Christianityboard, I become very interested in the subject. The person who sees an arrogant tone in my posts and perhaps arrogant words, also made another point that I thought was really interesting - arrogance is subjective. So, seeing arrogance in another person may only be seen by the observer. I would really appreciate if this thread did not turn into a slam-fest on people you think are arrogant - instead, stick to behaviors.

An exception to this parameter is comments on my behavior. If you believe I am behaving arrogantly on this board. let me know - but be specific. I will try not to be defensive and I may ask more questions to get as much information as possible. If you do not like me, please by objective or do not post. I am not asking to be abused - I am asking for insight.

One more thing - I want to let you all know that I believe that the ability to see personal sin in others is solely for the purpose of identifying sins in ourselves. The stronger you feel about another person's personal sin, the more likely it is rooted within yourself or the behavior has wounded you in the past and left behind maladaptive behavior that need attention. Thought I should be upfront.

Thanks!

Hi Aspen,

I hope that I'm not one who you believe called you pompous. In one of my posts in which I was replying to something you said, I did mention 'pompous theologians.' I was by no means referring to you or anyone on the board. I was referring to those who go and 'study' the Scripture for years at a college or such, then come out with such a viewpoint that they will NOT even listen to you. All they can do is spout on about a concept that they were taught and they don't even know if it's correct.

Arrogance: dictionary definition is 'Having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities.'


I would see arrogance as one who won't listen (that can be very hard to judge at times. Some people have claimed that I wasn't listening to them when they made a suggestion on how to do something. If they had watched, they would've noticed that I actually followed it!) and who thinks they are the best and makes it obvious, not just by their words (I and my friends often play around with each other, claiming to be the 'best' just for fun) but by their actions. They act withdrawn and snobbish.
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[aspen]

Hi Aspen,

I hope that I'm not one who you believe called you pompous. In one of my posts in which I was replying to something you said, I did mention 'pompous theologians.' I was by no means referring to you or anyone on the board. I was referring to those who go and 'study' the Scripture for years at a college or such, then come out with such a viewpoint that they will NOT even listen to you. All they can do is spout on about a concept that they were taught and they don't even know if it's correct.

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Hey there Groundzero -

No, it wasn't you. BTW, I am not mad at the person for referring to me as arrogant - I am just trying to understand the nature of arrogance and what it looks like. I think your idea of "one who won't listen" is interesting - I agree it can be interpreted as rude and dismissive - perhaps it is the introverted or passive way of being arrogant.

Come to think of it, if I am looking down on someone, I often simply ignore them - I am an introvert by nature,,,,,,,,,so, if I am talking to a person, I view them as equal. It is rare for me to look down on people - it usually happens in a social situation - often when I feel trapped by an expert on some mundane topic. I really need to work on seeing the best in everyone. Recently, a person was talking at me about 'slapping a driver across the face', who in a car, in the lane next to him, who was supposedly crowding him while he was riding his motorcycle - they were travailing at 70 miles an hour on the freeway.......it took everything inside me not to ask him how much he got paid for being an extra in the Matrix. I guess he was trying to impress me.

 

[aspen]

Perhaps playing 'Devil's advocate' is considered arrogant?

 

[veteran]

Boldness can be misinterpreted as arrogance. Boldness comes from conviction of one's beliefs, whether those beliefs are correct or incorrect. If one's convictions align with the Truth in The Word of God, then they ought to show boldness with what they preach, and not be as some reed shaking in the wind. A problem though, is those unlearned in all of God's Word often act in boldness with what they learned from some minister or pastor or TV evangelist, instead of having received it directly from The LORD in His Word by The Holy Spirit.

 

[aspen]

How is boldness different from arrogance? It sounds like the distinction you make is that Boldness is correct doctrine and Arrogance is incorrect doctrine being taught as correct doctrine....if this is what you believe I heartily disagree.

 

[veteran]

How is boldness different from arrogance? It sounds like the distinction you make is that Boldness is correct doctrine and Arrogance is incorrect doctrine being taught as correct doctrine....if this is what you believe I heartily disagree.

Rom 10:20-21
20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.
21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.
(KJV)


1Thes 2:2
2 But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention.
(KJV)

Because of contention with unbelievers and the world, those given to preach God's Word have to be bold at times. Paul didn't let how he was shamefully treated in those places deter him from preaching God's Word with boldness.

Study!!!

 

[aspen]

Rom 10:20-21
20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.
21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.
(KJV)


1Thes 2:2
2 But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention.
(KJV)

Because of contention with unbelievers and the world, those given to preach God's Word have to be bold at times. Paul didn't let how he was shamefully treated in those places deter him from preaching God's Word with boldness.

Study!!!

Yes, but boldness means perseverance.......not the bellowing of a Jackass.

Truth will prevail even in meekness

 

[veteran]

Yes, but boldness means perseverance.......not the bellowing of a Jackass.

Truth will prevail even in meekness

So now you're calling Isaiah and Apostle Paul JACKASSES!! Per the confusion you're in, it figures you'd do that.

 

[aspen]

So now you're calling Isaiah and Apostle Paul JACKASSES!! Per the confusion you're in, it figures you'd do that.

Oh brother......

 

[Comm.Arnold]

So now you're calling Isaiah and Apostle Paul JACKASSES!! Per the confusion you're in, it figures you'd do that.

This is madness this is blasphemy !

 

[veteran]

This is madness this is blasphemy !

Yes, it is madness, isn't it? But so is the love of Communist-Socialism, which I detest, but aspen supports.

 

[Comm.Arnold]

Yes, it is madness, isn't it? But so is the love of Communist-Socialism, which I detest, but aspen supports.

Yeah Communism will never work.

But you are supposed to say This is Sparta ! and finish the movie quote.

 

[aspen]

This is madness this is blasphemy !

LOL

It is not madness or blasphemy....I am not calling God a jackass.

Yes, it is madness, isn't it? But so is the love of Communist-Socialism, which I detest, but aspen supports.

This is a thread about arrogance, not Communism.....unless you believe talking about arrogance leads to Communism......I wouldn't be surprised, you seem to think everything leads to Communism

 

[veteran]

Yeah Communism will never work.

But you are supposed to say This is Sparta ! and finish the movie quote.

Devout Christian believers in Russia and Red China have been saying, "This is Sparta!" for quite a while now, and they have been dying for Christ Jesus, likewise within the Muslim controlled nations. In the West, Christians have been jailed for public preaching of The Gospel or public reading of The Bible. It's time for the brethren to wake up and realize what times we're in now.

 

[aspen]

Rom 10:20-21
20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.
21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.
(KJV)


1Thes 2:2
2 But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention.
(KJV)

Because of contention with unbelievers and the world, those given to preach God's Word have to be bold at times. Paul didn't let how he was shamefully treated in those places deter him from preaching God's Word with boldness.

Study!!!

I do not think that the word boldness is describing their attitude or demeanor; it is describing their tenacity and perseverance in the face of persecution. They did not quit or back down from preaching God's word, even when faced with beatings, prison, or death. Gandhi and Martin Luther King were bold, yet meek in their nonviolent demonstrations and they changed society.

 

[aspen]

I think arrogance is a sign of insecurity. I used to work in construction, long ago, and I remember watching the contractors and foreman on the job site. The tradesmen who got promoted to leadership positions were quiet, yet commanded authority. They were not arrogant.......the arrogant men were not promoted.

I think mature people are secure in themselves.....they are not afraid of disagreement or strife......nor do they go out looking for it.

I think there is a big difference between arrogance and boldness.....the first is like yapping dog, trying to look ferocious hiding under a table; the other is a leader of men.