OSAS beginning ?

[Eternally Grateful]

Grace does have love in it.
Does love save you ? 3:16
So love came first to forgive us of our sins and to save us from the works of sin.
So is grace the blood applied to pardon us of our past sins ?

Grace as I studied it in the bible has so many different uses, its not always saving grace.
I have found grace is not always eternal.

Eternal life is eternal. And john said we can know we have it

Do you know you have eternal life? If not. Why?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

sin is the transgression of the law,the law still stands.

yep

But to those who are saved, It no longer has power over us. It can never condemn us again

 

[Eternally Grateful]

< shrugs >
In the Bible, most of mankind refuses to repent.

Others who trample under foot the grace of Jesus, can repent all they want - yet there remains no sacrifice for their sin. They are doomed without hope as written.

did they really repent?

I mean think about what you said,

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What was sin from the beginning ?
Has sin changed at all, is it still the same ?
Sin is not of itself existence, but it come from a willful person.
Where there is no law there is no sin to commit.
So did Jesus take away all laws so we cannot sin ?
Did Jesus come to change our heart so we don't sin against his commandments ?
Or is it 40 times 7 he keep forgiving us even tho we don't change ?

if we do not change, have we realy been born of God?


Sometimes we just need to think.

 

[Joseph77]

did they really repent?

I mean think about what you said,

Rather, what is written ?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Rather, what is written ?

What is written?

Did people who chose to continually live in sin, live as they were before they claimed the repented. really repent?

I think the answer is written in a few places at least

 

[Joseph77]

if we do not change, have we realy been born of God?


Sometimes we just need to think.

It is written somewhere in Scripture, "they" (former friends, in church and outside church, (to be verified))

they will turn on you , gnashing on you with their teeth, furious with you WHEN they find out you serve a Creator Who Demands ( or requires ) A TOTAL LIFE CHANGE (from the inside out) ....

 

[Joseph77]

What is written?

Did people who chose to continually live in sin, live as they were before they claimed the repented. really repent?

I think the answer is written in a few places at least

As you put it, it doesn't matter.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

It is written somewhere in Scripture, "they" (former friends, in church and outside church, (to be verified))

they will turn on you , gnashing on you with their teeth, furious with you WHEN they find out you serve a Creator Who Demands ( or requires ) A TOTAL LIFE CHANGE (from the inside out) ....

lol

Again, have these people repented?

 

[Joseph77]

Last I checked God did not make his children perfect.

When was that ?
(last you checked) (how did you check too?)

and when did God say He made His children perfect ? Or that they had to be perfect ?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

As you put it, it doesn't matter.

oh it does matter

Again,

Have these people ever repented? The bible gives the answer, can you show me where it says?

 

[Joseph77]

lol

Again, have these people repented?

The question was not whether they repented, but if they could. And then, if it would do any good.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

When was that ?
(last you checked) (how did you check too?)

and when did God say He made His children perfect ? Or that they had to be perfect ?

well it says he perfected them spiritually

But does everyone who comes to Christ all of a sudden know all sin, And never sin again? because they are super mature believers, who act just like christ from the moment of spiritual birth?

 

[Joseph77]

The bible gives the answer, can you show me where it says?

No. You already seem to have your mind made up, regardless.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The question was not whether they repented, but if they could. And then, if it would do any good.

here is your Quote

< shrugs >
In the Bible, most of mankind refuses to repent.

Others who trample under foot the grace of Jesus, can repent all they want - yet there remains no sacrifice for their sin. They are doomed without hope as written.

1. You said most do not repent
2. You said others (who have repented) who trample underfoot Gods grace can repent all they want

Again, Have these people every truly repented?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

No. You already seem to have your mind made up, regardless.

Do I have my mind up. Or is it that you can not show me where these people have NEVER repented?

 

[Joseph77]

Do I have my mind up. Or is it that you can not show me where these people have NEVER repented?

< shrugs > Do you care ? That was not the question I posted about.

 

[Joseph77]

. You said others (who have repented) who trample underfoot Gods grace can repent all they want

oops. mis-quote

 

[Eternally Grateful]

< shrugs > Do you care ? That was not the question I posted about.

lol

You responded to my question to you. when you insinuated people who had repented, then trampled Gods grace, said people can repent all they want, it does not matter, and I asked if they ever repented

Can you please answer the question.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

oops. mis-quote

< shrugs >
In the Bible, most of mankind refuses to repent.

Others who trample under foot the grace of Jesus, can repent all they want - yet there remains no sacrifice for their sin. They are doomed without hope as written.

Misquote? Here it is in your own words!