Eternally Grateful
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Then the cross is meaningless
you Breyer start sacrificing animals for your sin.
OSAS being False Doctrine!
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you Breyer start sacrificing animals for your sin.
You better start praying that when you commit sin, and you will (so will I), that you don't suddenly die! Because according to your erroneous doctrine Christ did not redeem you from that sin! What a polluted doctrine, without comfort, or peace!
Why is it important for a Christian to repent? It cannot be for eternal cleansing again, because then Christ would have to repeatedly go to the cross to be our sacrifice for sinning again, and again, and again, and again! HOGWASH! Doctrine of demons!
Eternally Grateful
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Salvation is on him, not us.
if we lose it, its on God, his reputation is at stake, not ours..
Eternally Grateful
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This is what the liberals do... claim something is not true over and over and over.... these scriptures do in fact say believers fall away, but you can claim they say whatever you'd like for them to say.
This is a common reaction to those suffering from CPS (Cherry Pickers Syndrome) who only look at a select few happy verses and throw the whole counsel of God out the window.
Suit yourself homie!
Hilarious, thanks for the laugh!
He did the work... and man must make the decision to either abide In Christ or not according to Jesus:
John 15:1,2
I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
John 15:5
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
You're not going to claim Jesus is a liar... are ya???
Eternally Grateful
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Your right, he did the works.He did the work... and man must make the decision to either abide In Christ or not according to Jesus:
John 15:1,2
I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
John 15:5
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
You're not going to claim Jesus is a liar... are ya???
And he tells us in john 3. Those who look to him and have faith in him will never die, but they will live forever.
No I will not claim Jesus is a liar.. the word take away should actually be lift up off the ground, so they can again bear fruit
its about fruit bearing not salvation.
If your not saved, you can;t bear fruit
if you are saved, you will be rewarded for bearing fruit.
Eternally Grateful
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The comedy is from youMore comedy, keep it coming!
you do not claim anger is a sin and you agree with it. Then when you get angry again, have to repent again and again change your mind to say anger is a sin
you already acknowledged it
Your mocking what it means, while knocking God
Simply believe what Jesus said... it's that simple.
John 15:1,2
I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
John 15:5
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
I'm not the one claiming that we can do sin and still be in right stand with the Lord.
God said plainly that if we sin (sow to the flesh) we shall reap corruption... to say we do not reap what we sow is to mock God.
Those doing this should confess their sin, stop mocking God so they can once again be in right standing with the Lord.... or not, it's their call
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That's sad that you believe that...
Hello! God's Word teaches that IF we sin we are to confess and forsake out sin in order to be cleansed from unrighteousness!
John 15:1,2
I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
John 15:5
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
People not understanding this is due to having been infected with CPS (Cherry Pickers Syndrome) and that happens by listening to what popular preachers teach cause they suffer from CPS as well.
Hang in their bud.. you'll get it eventually!
All have sinned and fallen short of God's standards. I assume you're advocating "sin once and you're unsaved" sinless perfectionism
Ecclesiastes 7:20 Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins
Ecclesiastes 7:20 Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins
amigo de christo
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NO , nor did he lie when he told them YE must continue IN ME
Its not a sin to remind the church . paul did , Peter did and others did .
For we are made partakers of CHRIST IF we hold ....................................................to the END .
yeah . i suggest we start reminding the church about that
amigo de christo
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You mean not TRUE believers . there is a huge difference my friend .
True beleivers would not DESIRE TO REJEJCT GOD
but false believers DID and DO . and many false beleivers were JEWS too . just like we got us many false conversions
false believers IN christendom . NOT ALL WHO LIP the NAME OF JESUS , ARE HIS . that my friend is very true indeed .
Eternally Grateful
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Your claiming salvation is a fuit of our works..Simply believe what Jesus said... it's that simple.
John 15:1,2
I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
John 15:5
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
I'm not the one claiming that we can do sin and still be in right stand with the Lord.
God said plainly that if we sin (sow to the flesh) we shall reap corruption... to say we do not reap what we sow is to mock God.
Those doing this should confess their sin, stop mocking God so they can once again be in right standing with the Lord.... or not, it's their call
You’re teaching exactly what I tell you. You’re trying to earn a gift. You will not be happy unless you repent
Eternally Grateful
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I don;t believe that. You do!
LolHello! God's Word teaches that IF we sin we are to confess and forsake out sin in order to be cleansed from unrighteousness!
John 15:1,2
I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
John 15:5
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
People not understanding this is due to having been infected with CPS (Cherry Pickers Syndrome) and that happens by listening to what popular preachers teach cause they suffer from CPS as well.
Hang in their bud.. you'll get it eventually!
the law said if you sin, an animal had to be sacrificed to be forgiven.
so again I ask, what animals are you sacrificing for atoning your sin?
Rockerduck
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Where did I say salvation wasn't of Jesus Himself? Jesus is the author and perfecter of our faith. Without Jesus there is no saving Grace. Jesus has never let go of me and never will.
That's a good point Amigo! We must be reminded because we are not a pure, sinless body of believers ONLY! We are surrounded both in this world and in the churches on earth by those who are liars and deceivers.
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