OSAS....love it....hate it

those are not the grave sins according to human thinking. so these people can claim sinlessness while at the same time the sin of pride and judgment is open for those truly looking to see.. In sin they reject their own teaching

 

this is confusing, who swears?

I am not swearing I am saved, I am basing my salvation on the word that I head., the hope which God promised. and my faith in that word and promise

My salvation is based on christ, who swore and oath to believers and gave us his spirit as a pledge until the day or redemption

 

this makes no sense

 

so David, Abraham and all the rest were not saved?

 

Again, more god-like behavior from you. You decide, “claim”, what applies to you!

What pride!

I proclaim the scriptures to you! God gave ALL scripture to YOU! But you’re so special that you only “claim” certain portions “APPLY” to you!

“But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law… ye have not kept my ways, but have been partial in the law.” (Malachi 2:8-9)

It’s not my problem that you have changed the truth into lie!

“…Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.” (Romans 1:24-25)

What “creature” theology do you place above the word of God that makes you bold in deciding what scriptures “APPLY” to you?

“Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.” (Acts 7:51)

 

I can’t follow @Taken either.

One time he says something I agree with, the next post he says some crazy off the wall things that leave me scratching my head.

 

If they believed the gospel when Christ preached unto them (1 Peter 4:6); yes, they are saved!

 

it makes no sense, because the word says we are dead. We are born dead, we are dead in adam.

I can't die if I am already dead.

we who are dead in trespasses and sin are made alive

 

That's what I've seen, that when someone claims sinlessness they've got some other definition of what is and isn't sin. Mostly I find it becomes a matter of degree, and some things just aren't considered. I look at my actions - my deeds and words - according to their source. Either these words are originating in flesh or spirit, and I want them to be spirit.

Fleshy words need examination and monitoring and correction, but spiritual words do not, only, in the heavenly wisdom.

If we are looking at ourselves according to what we are doing, we are evaluating ourselves moment by moment to determine if this is OK, or not OK, and if not OK, then what? How do I become OK?

If we are looking at ourselves according to our relationship with God, knowing that we are fully reconciled to Him, we don't need to be concerned over our behavior, it will be in line with His will. We will be communing with our Creator, just as He intends for us, and out of that place of security in Him, in His love, we are free to give ourselves and all we have for others.

Much love!

 

Who are you kidding?!

You give glory to yourself!

You a prime example why the world despises Christians!

Too bad some extra biblical theology renders it useless to you!

More rubbish!

All scripture is profitable!

“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” (2 Timothy 3:16)

Who do you think you are? I can choose to APPLY ALL scripture to CORRECT and INSTRUCT and REPROVE!

But your a lost cause it seems. You despise some of the scriptures, that’s why you have deceived yourself in thinking some of it is not applicable to you!

And since I use all scripture against YOU (the great one without shame) I’m not surprised at the filth you throw at me! I’m a dedicated Bible reader who loves the word of God! Your hatred is no surprise.

Using the word of God to instruct and correct is considered “vomit and hate” against others. Wow! When they put Christians in prison for quoting the Bible I bet YOU’LL love it!!

I promote my standing with God by exalting his word!

YOU MAKE IT VOID!

I stand against heretics! It’s fitting that you’re my adversary!

No. SHAME ON YOU!

But you have none!

Don’t reply anymore! I don’t know how much more of your garbage I can take!

 

if bodily death is payment for sin, once we die bodily we would have paid our own debt.. again, this makes no sense

 

Abraham was justified when he believed. we see this in Genesis and we see it also in romans 4.

Salvation has always been by grace through faith. Its never been any other way.

 

But you'd still be dead.

Sharing Christ's death provides for us a "survivable death", with subsequent life of an entirely different sort.

Much love!