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Featured Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by gaviria.christian, Nov 22, 2019.

  1. Earburner

    Earburner Well-Known Member

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    If you read my post, following your post that I am now replying to, you will learn the truth of what is really going on.

    All of prophecy is "non-religious", and is always manifested in a spiritual fulfillment by the Holy Spirit, or a practical application, manifested by the world.
    The sooner ones learns that, the better off they will be for understanding.
    I can't begin to tell you how much the churches have got it wrong, as to how Revelation is being fleshed out. First and foremost, they are so far off track with Daniel, that they all have gone "wild eyed" with their foolish imaginations and fabrications.
     
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    That was quite an extensive explanation, and quite accurate. I would only add that US currency states right on the front "This Note...etc." It literally represents debt. It is debt being presented as an asset to pay off debts which is ridiculous.


    The person you were responding to also conflated real wealth with perceived wealth. It is sometimes distinguished as first and second tier wealth. Real wealth or first tier wealth is land, precious metals, agriculture, etc. Second tier wealth is found in the processes or products that are used to reap the rewards from the first tier wealth. Then there is the third tier which is derived from the first two tiers. When the economy crashes or collapses, all third tier wealth disappears because it is basically just those green pieces of paper or digits on a screen indicating value. That value is eaten up through inflation, or an economic collapse. For example, a stock price can plunge from $100.00 a share to zero. Your portfolio is then reduced to nothing. All stocks, bonds, commodities futures, derivatives, CDO's, etc. become worthless. None of that is real wealth. It's all parasitic. Even much second tier wealth is lost as well as it is no longer useful when no one has any money to purchase anything with, but the land can still be lived on. It can still be farmed to sustain oneself.
     
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    You sound like my brother of my flesh and blood family!! He also has gone after the Jewish methodology of study. Ranting and raving all the time, then refusing to communicate with me, because I refuse to follow his Pre-millennial way of thinking!!
    And now, you have done the same, you put me on "ignore". Have it your way!
     
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    So, for every biblical topic, of which all are interconnected, "there can always be more than one lie, but there can never be more than one truth"- Earburner.
    So then, if one has an understanding of a topic, and that understanding is a lie, then that lie will sooner or later permeate and contaminate all or most other topics that are connected to it.
     
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    Finally someone with some wit that understands something. I applaud you.
     
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    We all know that we have left the "gold standard years ago.
    That is all true, but it is NOT the final stage of fiat currency (FC)!! At the moment all FC is claimed to be backed by gold, but that is proved to be unworthy. When FC is printed by the billions, beyond the gold in reserve, and the gold reserve is not increased, the results is for every piece of paper printed in extension, of the worth of gold in holding, becomes more and more worthless. Its value eventually becomes only valuable because we are led to falsely believe that it is.

    Ultimately, that game plan will compound itself into infinity, when all FC goes "digital", aka "cryptocurrency", and then all FC is declared outlawed.
    From that point, we will all have entered into the world of the "MoB", because only the "banking elite" will be in full control of their economic empire, thus informing everyone, everywhere what "digital dollars" will be worth, with no gold at all for backing.

    There will be a "run on the bank", not to make a withdrawal, but rather a deposit!!
    YOU will run to the bank with your "cash", to convert it all into cryptocurrency!! Maybe!

    FIRST, you will have agree to their NWO, and then be tattooed with digitized ink for an ID, so as to prove (identify you) that you have been approved to transact business and services through your bank account.
    And, if you don't agree with their process? Well, there will be no transactions of withdrawals from your bank account!

    Now lets talk about temptation,...
     
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    US currency is not backed by gold at all, and hasn't been for decades. I can't remember the date, but all the paperwork for the gold was transferred from the Fed. The government has no gold holdings, and there is no indication that the government has any gold either. US currency is explicitly backed by debt. It is not a coincidence that it literally states it is a note. It says that because it is a note. Each and every dollar is lent into existence AT INTEREST.

    The banking cartels are already in control of their money due to the fact that all monetary policy is being run by them, and has been for well over 100 years now. The fox has been guarding the henhouse for quite some time. Converting to a cryptocurrency is essentially no different than what we have now with online banking. All they're doing is taking over the competition.

    A pretty big maybe. Over 90% of the wealth in the world today is owned by less than 10% of the population, and 90% of that wealth is owned by the top 1%. They're not going to be rushing to convert their money into cryptocurrencies because they own the banks. They own the resources, the collateral, the manufacturing plants, etc. that the derivatives are based upon. They don't have to run anywhere. The rest of the money is already being spent, and is now mostly represented by debt. The banks will simply convert it themselves if that's what they want to do.
     
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    I AGREE!! Our fiat currency is a complete SHAM!
    As I did say: "We all know that we have left the 'gold standard' years ago."

    The next event for the present economic system is going to be a complete overhaul into a NEW economic paradigm of "cryptocurrency", being that of digital numbers, having no identification or specification, whether Dollars Pounds or Pesos etc. The NW0 will be global, with a single, universal cryptocurrency.

    Whats happening now to fiat currency, is a manipulated orchestration into the new paradigm.
    It is being propted up to NOT CRASH, until they are ready to install the new paradigm.
     
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    That "Maybe" is talking about "Joe the Plumber" etc. who have 100-500 dollars of fiat currency in their wallet.
    When the word goes out, that conversion to cryptocurrency is now 100%, ALL fiat currency will become useless and outlawed.
    Joe the Plumber etc. will run to the bank, to convert their "cash" into crypto money!
    I said "maybe", because Christians will then decide if that will be the start of the "MoB" or not.
     
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    You hi-lited and emphasized the WRONG portion of that scripture!!

    It should be emphasized this way:
    "And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done… And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
    Revelation 20:12-15

    > The truth to be known is, if one's name IS NOT written in the Book of Life, all of any kind works that they had done, IS NOT going get them into the KoG!!
    So then, what does?
    John 3:3-8
    Romans 8:8-9
     
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    Nope. They will instigate a crash in order to "fix" the system. Putting us back on the gold standard wouldn't make any difference as it can be arbitrarily changed on a whim, and that is a historical fact. A basket of currencies, precious metals, commodities etc. are no different.

    It doesn't matter what it is backed by if they can continue to lend currency into existence within a fascist oligarchy.
     
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    You might look at Zimbabwe, Argentina, the Weimar Republic, Venezuela, etc. because that's not how it works. The only thing propping up the actual economy right now is the black market which is the only free market that exists anymore. If cash is outlawed, the black market will immediately come up with a substitute. It always does.

    The government knows what is going on, and wants a cut of the action. They see how much currency is in circulation, but they also see that it isn't moving, or rather they can't see it moving because there are a whole lot of transactions going on that aren't being taxed. People aren't putting their money into the bank like they used to. They're hiding it under their mattresses.
     
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    It could be a crash! But for sure, at that time, the new economic paradigm WILL THEN BE Cryptocurrency, aka "Digital Cash", being not tangible or of any intrinsic value whatsoever!
    From out of that, shall come the MoB and NOT before!!
     
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    Perhaps the black market will, but that is being said while tangible fiat currency is now still in circulation.

    Who says that there won't be a percentage of a "digital" reward of 5-10%, for every piece of denomination that is turned in for conversion?
    Surely, they will make it attractive, just as much as all the credit card companies do now.
     
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    They've already pumped the market up to burst. It's way beyond what it was back in 2008. A crash is inevitable. They're just waiting for the right moment to pull the plug, probably sometime between now and the 2020 election which will put Trump out of the white house and into the dog house.

    Going against God's commandments necessarily gives one the mark of the beast. The BIS, IMF, The Fed, etc. is the beast system. It is antithetical to God's commandments of honest weights and measures. It is satanic to the core. You can't buy and sell within that system without taking the mark.

    There is nothing of any intrinsic value within the world monetary system today. If so, what? It's nothing but digits on a ledger. Printing money doesn't make it worth anything. Holding some fraction of that in reserve doesn't make the fabricated digital money lent out worth anything either. It's blatant fraud, and even as recently as 100 years ago, people knew it was immoral. Today it is not only accepted, but condoned by everyone who uses it.
     
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    That makes no difference. As I pointed out before, look at history. When a currency is seen to be worthless, other fungible items become fashionable as money. Look at Argentina where Tide was used to barter

    Look at how many people are walking away from using credit already. You can't pay a credit card off if you haven't got any money anymore. This is the end game. Chesterton said it best when he pointed out that capitalism is really just a game of Monopoly, and only one person wins that game. The highest concentration of wealth is now in the hands of 0.01% of the population.

    Remember when Bernanke suggested just giving people money to spend? There has to be a reset somehow, but his idea spotlights the problem. It is no different than what Joseph did to the people of Egypt He literally enslaved them. He placed them into a position of perpetual indentured servitude.

    The government doesn't have to make it look attractive, just necessary. When the children of Israel were making preparations to leave Egypt, they looted the country of their gold and silver. The people saw it as necessary to give them their gold and silver to get them to leave. It is a pervasive theme throughout the bible, and no one seems to notice it. You will when the next crash hits though. Then it will become quite clear.

    Revelation is already coming to pass when we see the shipping companies selling their tankers and freight liners for scrap. This has been going on for quite some time now.
     
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    The new economic paradigm is just one facet of the big picture. They are going for broke, total world domination on a global scale, through the UN.

    Don't be fooled by the manufactured insignificance of power, that the UN appears to demonstrate. For the past 75 years or so, they have been like a dutiful prosecuting lawyer, recording case files of the global scene, imposing and working every avenue of approach, to initiate actions for or against countries and nations. They have been building up a huge back log of case files of every border skirmish and war, creating every reference possible, to use in any and every situation on the global scene between governments. THEY ARE the future NWO,..."the image of the Beast".
     
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    "Giving people money to spend" is still a hot idea. The simple fact that it is thought up, and has been acted upon in several countries for trial runs, is evident that they are no longer toying with the idea.
    Especially when there are presidential candidates pushing it out in the public. Right there it tells us its on its way! FREE DIGITAL MONEY deposited into your bank account for one year, from the government (1 King 10:14).
    It most definitely will be required, after the event of WW3 in the Euphrates region. KJV- Rev. 9:13-15.

    20,000 satelites for 5G technology are being launched NOW in low earth orbit for it. That will be perfectly ideal, because the 4G network is land based communications, which would come to ruination in a WW3 situation, and the social chaos that shall follow it!
    Yes! There must be communications for "buying and selling" in a digitized cashless society, for whats left of it.
     
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    They don't need the UN to do what they're already doing in the open. God points out what is moral and what is immoral. Engaging in immoral monetary policies in order to buy and sell is taking the mark of the beast. The fact that most have no clue what they're doing is indicative of how far we have fallen morally. We are a desperately wicked and deceitful people to think that using a fractional reserve fiat currency system is moral at all. It's ubiquitous around the world, and has enriched less than 0.01% of the population with over 90% of the wealth of the world, and impoverished the rest off the world in the process. It is satanic to the core, and everyone who uses it has taken the mark of the beast.
     
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    I don't know why you say 5G isn't land based because everything I've read shows that the towers are firmly planted on the ground, and quite close to residences, businesses, etc. and with a quite short range as well which is why they want so many of them. They're already installing them around here. Not close enough for me to use as I'm out in the boonies, but close enough for people to notice.

    It's really a moot point for the US though as the US has no manufacturing base anymore. Capital flight has been endemic in the US for decades and most of it is never coming back. China is already starting to sell its wares elsewhere, and developing income streams around the rest of the world.

    Asian nations don't think like those in the west. They're building skyscrapers for business, and residential housing to prepare for the influx of business they're going to have well into the next century. Most of what they're building now is less than 80% occupied. The US isn't doing anything like that because we don't have the money. We have only trillions of dollars of debt which we are never going to be able to pay off.

    The US is destined to become a backwater. Take a look around at how quickly it's already become gutted, and it's only going to escalate as time goes on.

    Look at how many people are already running for the exits. I can remember 40 years ago when the number of people renouncing their citizenship was next to nothing, and the paperwork was free. Today there are thousands of people renouncing and the paperwork costs around $3k just for the application. It takes them three to four years just to get to your paperwork to review it, and even though the exit tax is going up, people gladly pay it just to be free of the leach that is now the US.

    Even people who don't have that much money are getting out just because the tax code is so ridiculous.
     
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