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Featured Paul said: give thyself to reading of the scriptures

Discussion in 'Christian Spirituality Forum' started by firstthings1st., Jan 9, 2019.

  1. amadeus

    amadeus Well-Known Member

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    I do remember when a clerk or cashier in the store had to be reasonably well versed in basic arithmetic to get and keep his job. The cash registers of old could not calculate how much change to give a person. Most things were paid for in cash in those days. Semi-literate people could not get such jobs and if they did they would not keep them for long. Can a person be good at math and be unable to read?
     
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    Willie T Well-Known Member

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    Your final sentence hit upon a point few people seem to understand. Both disciplines require concentration and dedication to developing some basic skill sets and the forming of effective habits.
     
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    amadeus Well-Known Member

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    Someone did understand it when they regularly used to emphasize the need to learn the 3 R's [Reading, 'Riting and "Rithmetic] in school. It would seem that with the advent of personal computers the 3 R's for the average person has been deemphasized and it probably has hurt and is hurting them in the world of men... although they too often will not even know it.
     
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    mjrhealth Well-Known Member

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    I can still often add up and work out my change before the operator has finished scanning.
     
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    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    That is incorrect. Paul's epistles were recognized and circulated as Scriptures.
     
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    firstthings1st. Active Member

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    Esp. The Bereans
     
  7. ScottA

    ScottA Well-Known Member

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    This is a good passage that helps to understand the process and order of things during these times which have been allotted for such a purpose. "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God", is another.

    It is very interesting, and should be taken note of, that Paul also preaches on the other end of the process, on the end, rather than the beginning of coming into the knowledge of God, even saying, "Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation..."
     
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    Waiting on him Well-Known Member

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    Assuming He’s came
     
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    ScottA Well-Known Member

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    Of course...He is with me, and with many others.
     
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    Waiting on him Well-Known Member

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    I read many on here and question the fruit I see.
     
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    ScottA Well-Known Member

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    "Wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together."
     
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    Waiting on him Well-Known Member

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    Ready to gobble up all that flesh.
     
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    Nancy Well-Known Member

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    What you said @Enoch111
    Lol...just looking at old posts :) and, yes...ALL Scripture to date!
     
  14. bbyrd009

    bbyrd009 Groper

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    well we have an impression here, and a folklore, that likely is not even very close to reality. Imo we read "give yourself to public reading of the Scripture" but that surely meant something completely diff to Paul. For one we think "Bible" when we read "Scripture" there but that is not how Paul defined "Scripture" anyway, and that's not what the v says, it says "writing."

    "All writing is profitable for" etcetc, bearing in mind that fiction was not developed nor disseminated yet, and that ppl got stoned to death for lying back then. This pov also clarifies the Exodus story, as we know that a million plus Hebrews did not literally leave Rahab. "God of the vowel people" splains better than I could tho I guess.

    Anyway Paul might have been um completely diff than what we think, and there is ample reason to believe that Saul/Paul (of "Tarsus" no less lol, a big flashing neon sign) was quickly and widely disseminated among a certain let's say "underground" population. The fall of Rome was surely anticipated right, but we don't consider this either?

    Paul was declared innocent of anything that deserved death even though he had committed several capitol offenses and was on the run? And there are other deliberate anomalies that bring the story together too I guess, meant to tail with the Christ story, also "guilty" but declared innocent, etc
     
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    marksman My eldest granddaughter showing the result of her

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    That is where grace comes into play. No one starts anything perfect. They grow into it.
     
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    Well ok prolly diff subject but imo there is no growing into a better perception of Death More Abundantly. The blind leading the blind is a rebuke of believers
     
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    If I testify of myself, my testimony is invalid
     
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    ScottA Well-Known Member

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    You've missed the point.

    Jesus wasn't saying that to testify of Himself meant the opposite, as if He would not have been the Christ just for saying so...He was saying that if that was all He had, He would not be the One foretold. On the contrary, He in fact did testify of Himself. But it was also written of Him...just as it is written of all who are in Christ, and Christ in us.
     
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    bbyrd009 Groper

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    100% sure, are you?
    um, you might give an example or two of Jesus testifying of Himself, and let's see

    but I can see that invalid does not necessarily mean untrue, sure. Ali was the greatest, for a while, right. At least according to a certain pretty exclusive discipline. But I think the differences between him and our boxers can be made plain, we'll see.

    I may have missed the point, but you have now concluded that I have missed the point...iow I have already lost the argument lol, but wth
     
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    Preacher4Truth Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the public reading of Scripture is of utmost importance. Many churches do not devote time for this. Some believe this to mean for the pastors private reading, it's importance, but not only this, but paying attention to ones doctrine as well, whether it is biblical; 1 Timothy 4:16.

    Some today ridicule doctrine, mitigate doctrine, thinking that some "Give me Jesus only!" mantra is to have proper and biblical doctrine, or is a rejection of theology and doctrine, but such is not the case. Tell me about this Jesus without doctrine. One cannot do so, and most who adhere to such a false creed are errant in many ways, even an up to concerning Jesus.
     
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