Pentecostalism History tidbits

[Dave L]

And you are reading into scripture typical secessionist bias.

I "spoke in tongues" until I studied scripture on the matter.

 

[Dave L]

Another tidbit; "Maria Beulah Woodworth-Etter, one of the most influential early Pentecostal female preachers, was dubbed the “voodoo priestess” because she often went into trances during a service, standing like a statue for an hour or more with her hands raised while the service continued” (The Dictionary of Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements, p. 901)." Recent Pentecostal Scandals

 

[Helen]

You are reading into scripture typical Pentecostal bias. Drop that and you'll see clearly.

Dito
It takes one to know one Dave...you are quoting me!!
Take off your dark glasses and enjoying the vision of His Kingdom.

 

[Dave L]

Dito
It takes one to know one Dave...you are quoting me!!
Take off your dark glasses and enjoying the vision of His Kingdom.

I used to teach what you believe. But had too many questions develop along the way to simply look the other way. One question was why God would restore the gifts to a group of seedy characters and not the Church in general. And why tongues were always spontaneous and came unexpectedly in the first century. With no mention of the coach and the practicing "tongues speakers" endure today. And the instability I've seen in Pentecostal churches that you don't see in the mainline Churches. That's the beginning of my studies and things only got worse in my views from there.

 

[amadeus]

But he was nothing like what you see today.

Are you seeing what Michal saw rather than what God saw?

"Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!" II Sam 6:20

 

[Dave L]

Are you seeing what Michal saw rather than what God saw?

"Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!" II Sam 6:20

Stick to scripture and see for yourself.

 

[amadeus]

Scripture is uniform in its presentation. One reason you do not speak in tongues is because they only came through an Apostle's hands besides the two outpourings. You add to scripture claiming otherwise.

And you add to scripture to so limit God.

 

[Dave L]

And you add to scripture to so limit God.

No, tongues and prophecy, falsely so called, add to scripture.

 

[Ezra]

Do you? Then give me an example. Say.....what does it teach about the second coming.

he is returning duhhhhhhhhhhhh ..i dont need to prove anything to you

 

[amadeus]

No, tongues and prophecy, falsely so called, add to scripture.

I won't argue the point. I simply disagree. Sometimes you make a good point, but too often you generalize and God doesn't do that.

 

[amadeus]

Stick to scripture and see for yourself.

That was scripture!

 

[marksman]

he is returning duhhhhhhhhhhhh ..i dont need to prove anything to you

In other words, you don't know. I thought as much.

 

[marksman]

I "spoke in tongues" until I studied scripture on the matter.

So, that proves that tongues have ceased? I guess I have not caught up with that method of exegeting scripture.

 

[marksman]

Please prove your position by scripture, not sentiment.

Another red herring. You posed the question, now provide the answers.

 

[marksman]

From scripture, prove that I'm lying.

I have already done that but as it does not fit your theology you choose to ignore it.

 

[marksman]

I think the truth sets people free if God gives them ears to hear. And many find freedom from Pentecostalism every day.

Evidence please.

 

[marksman]

Please prove your position by scripture, not sentiment.

I have done that but the fact that you have ignored the fact shows that truth to you is what you want to make it.

 

[marksman]

Again. it's time for me to stop responding to you unless you post something with substance. I'm reading your posts hoping you will come up with something we can address with scripture.

Actually, you will do us all a favour if you departed these forums.

 

[Helen]

Actually, you will do us all a favour if you departed these forums.

He'll never do that.
He is here on a mission as an anti -Pentecostal.

He just posts the same old thing over and over. Saying nothing.

 

[Ezra]

In other words, you don't know. I thought as much.

your right you dont think