Poll: Tattoo art - Christian perspectives: Fight it? Ignore it? appreciate/embrace it?

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Poll: Tattoo art - Christian perspectives: Fight it? Ignore it? appreciate/embrace it?


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farouk

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Except for the one that got infected and made her ankle swell up like a balloon. That was the last tattoo.
@Lambano
Sorry about that reaction/swelling. Having lots of small tattoos around the ankle/foot area is preferred by many tattoo recipients. Especially if this is where all the tattoos are, it would not be surprising if more were gotten there, if it were not for the reaction, which understandably should be avoided.
 

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You are right that a tattoo is not necessary to witness. (Although given its proven effectiveness as a conversation-starter, a lot of believers do get Bible verses, etc., inked. This is also why more generally so many nurses get tattoos; they use them as an ice breaker with patients and their families.)

A bit of theology. Hebrews 4 does not say that in order for our Great High Priest to represent us in heaven, we need first to keep the law.

The law was indeed changed; and what we now have is indeed better than the law (as per Hebrews 7).
Paul taught the Law had changed in the context of how it was to be kept, not that it ceased being the primary moral standard for Christians. Despite what you are trying to espouse, Paul didn't say the current covenant is based on a lack of law. What he said was that the current covenant is based on better promises, and it would be wise to understand the difference. He was alluding to the fact that the promises under the former covenant were purely physical and temporary. The promises of the current covenant are better because they are spiritual and eternal. The conditions of receiving either promise remain unchanged the same: keeping God's laws.

You are also lying by claiming no one has to keep the Law for Christ to be their High Priest. This couldn't be any further from the truth. Christ is the High Priest for truly converted Christians who are under the covenant. And in order to be brought in under the covenant and remain there, the Christian has to keep God's laws. Read Exo. 24. God made the covenant with ancient Israel upon the condition that they keep His laws. God clearly stated throughout the Law that this nation would remain His people if they kept His laws. The fact that God eventually disowned them shows why your theology is clearly false. You are speaking on matters you clearly don't understand, especially because Jesus' own words in Matt. 5:17 shows the authority of the Law has not been abolished at any time.

I don't care one bit that "believers" think tattoos are a nice icebreaker. God's stance on tattoos is just as clear as His position on is abortion, homosexuality, and witchcraft, and nobody who claims the Bible is their basis of their faith should be trying to argue against what is an unmistakable prohibition from God. God said "don't", and any arguments to willful ignore it amounts to elevating one's reasoning above God's authority.
 

farouk

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Paul taught the Law had changed in the context of how it was to be kept, not that it ceased being the primary moral standard for Christians. Despite what you are trying to espouse, Paul didn't say the current covenant is based on a lack of law. What he said was that the current covenant is based on better promises, and it would be wise to understand the difference. He was alluding to the fact that the promises under the former covenant were purely physical and temporary. The promises of the current covenant are better because they are spiritual and eternal. The conditions of receiving either promise remain unchanged the same: keeping God's laws.

You are also lying by claiming no one has to keep the Law for Christ to be their High Priest. This couldn't be any further from the truth. Christ is the High Priest for truly converted Christians who are under the covenant. And in order to be brought in under the covenant and remain there, the Christian has to keep God's laws. Read Exo. 24. God made the covenant with ancient Israel upon the condition that they keep His laws. God clearly stated throughout the Law that this nation would remain His people if they kept His laws. The fact that God eventually disowned them shows why your theology is clearly false. You are speaking on matters you clearly don't understand, especially because Jesus' own words in Matt. 5:17 shows the authority of the Law has not been abolished at any time.

I don't care one bit that "believers" think tattoos are a nice icebreaker. God's stance on tattoos is just as clear as His position on is abortion, homosexuality, and witchcraft, and nobody who claims the Bible is their basis of their faith should be trying to argue against what is an unmistakable prohibition from God. God said "don't", and any arguments to willful ignore it amounts to elevating one's reasoning above God's authority.
Some of what you say seems apples and oranges.

Hebrews 7.12 says that the law was changed. Hebrews 7.19 says that what we have now is better than the law. The obedience of faith/obedience to the faith (Romans 1 & 16) is different from lawkeeping.

My wife and I talked to a young lady with the whole of John 3.16 tattooed on her wrist area; and all the young ppl with Bible verses tattooed seem have had them done for evangelistic reasons.

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farouk

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Now, I know a young man who tried to get away with nipple-rings under his USAF uniform. The military is definitely not open-minded about things like that.
@Lambano I guess I can see where the military is coming from; if there is contact at close quarters in a military situation, such rings can conceivably cause harm to others or injury to the wearer. Against this can be said that the military evidently expects some women to wear earrings on parade, and parade dress even specifies what size earrings they must be.

The military seems to have a tattoo policy which keeps changing from to time. I guess the bottom line is that if two or three conflicts are going on at the same time and recruitment is needed to avoid over-stretch, if personnel in all other respects meet the criteria, then some tattoos are probably going to be overlooked.
 

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The military seems to have a tattoo policy which keeps changing from to time. I guess the bottom line is that if two or three conflicts are going on at the same time and recruitment is needed to avoid over-stretch, if personnel in all other respects meet the criteria, then some tattoos are probably going to be overlooked.
Remember when tattoos were especially associated with sailors? But I’m kinda old-school, and nipple-rings strike me as just plain weird.
 

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And let’s not even talk about Prince Albert piercings, or we might have to have an uncomfortable discussion with one of the admins.
 

farouk

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@Jay Ross We are free in Christ. The only tattoos I will not be getting is one of remembrance of the dead as God commands. I don't think Farouk is encouraging people to sin....
@Mantis People should refrain from tattoos - even faith based designs - if their conscience leads them in this way; but as regards some of the Levitical rules for Jews in the land with bushy beards, etc., it's hard to make them exactly the same as for the church, supposedly.

So many Christians get Bible verses tattooed; all the young Christians who have done this that I have spoken with seem to have done so for evangelistic reasons.

One young lady with John 3.16 on her wrist area that my wife and I talked to seemed to have had the text done painstakingly, word for word: as regards the conscience, her conscience seemingly having encouraged her to do so.
 
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farouk

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My parents live in separate states, far far away, but they are doing good.
@FluffyYellowDuck So did you ever check out any out of state parlors when you have travelled, maybe? or only the local ones.

There can be quite a variety of art specialisms; and of course some of them have well illustrated websites.

Hoping you can have good contacts with family over Christmas....
 

farouk

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@Lambano I'll respond to both posts together; sometimes piercing services are offered at tattoo parlors; sometimes tattoos on their own or piercings on their own.

But one can understand why ppl do prefer to go a parlor for ears/nose, etc., rather than to a mall kiosk, because at a kiosk it may be a well meaning teenager without a lot of experience, while in a parlor there may be artists with piercing skills and qualifications also who have a great deal of experience; and a lot of ppl think it's probably worth paying an extra bit for a better service, whether or not they get some ink as well, right?
 

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@Lambano Maybe using a parlor instead of a kiosk in future would be no bad thing, in any case, right?
I don't think my wife or stepson will get any more tats or piercings.

My stepson's tattoos run to things like movie monsters (Godzilla!) and video game characters. One of these he designed himself, which is kind of cool.