Posting Annoyance

[Nancy]

Is anyone else get annoyed when trying to post too fast on too many topics later see and made some stupid mistakes they did not catch in proofreading?

Not talking spelling.

Well, I never found any smart mistakes

 

[Nancy]

Yes. It is like the old joke about St. Peter escorting a newly arrived soul on a tour through heaven. St. Peter says, indicating various groups as they pass,"And over here, we have the Baptists, over there, the Lutherans, and over there, the Pentecostals. And, then, could I ask you to take off your shoes?" The newly arrived soul, startled, asked, "Why should I do that Peter?" St. Peter whispers, "Well, we will soon go past the Calvinists and they think they are the only ones here. Out of kindness, we let them think that."

Lol! I was wondering if any of them ever even had an inkling of doubt in their security/salvation...

 

[amadeus]

Lol! I was wondering if any of them ever even had an inkling of doubt in their security/salvation...

Or what of those who simply were not there at all...?

 

[Nancy]

Or what of those who simply were not there at all...?

Could ask the same of the J.W.'s. And that is sad. I love several people whom happen to be Calvinist, and have 2 awesome guys, and very reasonable, rate wise- doing work in my kitchen. They never proselytize while working, I really like them yet will never "get" why they believe how they do.

 

[Taken]

Is anyone else get annoyed when trying to post too fast on too many topics later see and made some stupid mistakes they did not catch in proofreading?

Not talking spelling.

Inevitable when speaking with multiple people at different distances in knowledge and understanding and the impatience to go orderly step by step, whereas it is routinely multiple points and skipping Over important steps.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Dave L]

Why bother?

I don't type. I club the keyboard like a 20s tabloid reporter. Two fingers only while eating a sandwich. So I make lots of mistakes. I edit quite a few of my posts because of this.

 

[Dave L]

I read through this man's "questions" (which are really more assertion than question). It is obvious that he is a Calvinist and I reject much of what he says based on my own understanding of what the Bible teaches. That's the problem with Calvinists--they think that their interpretation is the only one possible. They will not brook any departure from their dogma. When one argues with them, it is like arguing with a Roman Catholic. They spout Roman Catholic dogma and will not brook any departure from THEIR dogma. No wonder that people get confused. I am NOT a humanist (and I well know what that is). It is a favorite dodge of Calvinists--anyone who disagrees with them is either a "humanist" non-spiritual, etc. the list goes on and on. They are extremely arrogant and give Christians a bad name among non-Christians.

Have you considered that if the Calvinists are right about God, you actually hate God?

 

[amadeus]

Could ask the same of the J.W.'s. And that is sad. I love several people whom happen to be Calvinist, and have 2 awesome guys, and very reasonable, rate wise- doing work in my kitchen. They never proselytize while working, I really like them yet will never "get" why they believe how they do.

In spite of the thoughts of some, I do not believe that a person will be lost simply because he is a Calvinist, a Mormon, a JW, a Pentecostal, or a Catholic... and neither will a person be finally saved because he is any one of those or any of the multitude of other possibilities. God is really looking at a person's heart without regard for any particular designation. God has never changed and He who looked at people that way then and He who looks at them that way now!

"Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts." Prov 21:2

 

[Helen]

Have you considered that if the Calvinists are right about God, you actually hate God?

Come again Dave, I don't understand that?
I do believe in the "calling and election of sons"...which would also put me in the elite box, as are the Calvinists.
I believe anyone can Come...but not all will be sons..

I didn't understand your "hate God" bit in your post. ??

 

[Helen]

In spite of the thoughts of some, I do not believe that a person will be lost simply because he is a Calvinist, a Mormon, a JW, a Pentecostal, or a Catholic...

And I just plainly do not believe that ANY will be totally 'lost'.

 

[Dave L]

Come again Dave, I don't understand that?
I do believe in the "calling and election of sons"...which would also put me in the elite box, as are the Calvinists.
I believe anyone can Come...but not all will be sons..

I didn't understand your "hate God" bit in your post. ??

It's simple. If you consider the Calvinistic view of God and those who abhor it, they abhor God if the Calvinists are right.

 

[Enoch111]

Have you considered that if the Calvinists are right about God, you actually hate God?

That remark is way over the top. And that "if" is a big "if", since the distortion of God's character and God's Gospel is a very serious matter. And since the Calvinist Gospel is not the true Gospel of God and Christ, this Scripture would apply.

GALATIANS 1
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

 

[Dave L]

That remark is way over the top. And that "if" is a big "if", since the distortion of God's character and God's Gospel is a very serious matter. And since the Calvinist Gospel is not the true Gospel of God and Christ, this Scripture would apply.

GALATIANS 1
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

So you evidently hate the Calvinist's view of God? What if they are right?

 

[Enoch111]

And I just plainly do not believe that ANY will be totally 'lost'.

That sounds like wishful thinking rather than biblical thinking.

 

[Enoch111]

So you evidently hate the Calvinist's view of God? What if they are right?

According to Christ and His apostles, and according to the Bible, the Five Points of Calvinism are completely unscriptural (even though many Scriptures are misapplied and misinterpreted to shore up this house of cards). And many Scriptures have already been posted to refute these false notions.

 

[Dave L]

According to Christ and His apostles, and according to the Bible, the Five Points of Calvinism are completely unscriptural (even though many Scriptures are misapplied and misinterpreted to shore up this house of cards). And many Scriptures have already been posted to refute these false notions.

It still remains, those who hate the Calvinist presentation of God hate God if they are correct.

 

[Helen]

That sounds like wishful thinking rather than biblical thinking.

To you my friend....not to me..time alone will tell on who's side the truth lays.

As in Adam all died, so in Christ shall all be made alive...

I believe we were innocent when found in Adam...none of us were asked, I believe all will be found free in Jesus Christ... That is the victory and debt that Jesus came to pay. God saw the travail of His soul and was satisfied...

I will believe God to be victorious in this, and if wrong...at I least I will have believed my Father to have completed His Plan ...and seen God is love...rather than in your shoes and believe God is going to roast MOST of His creation in hellfire forever and ever...then, for you at the end , find out that you had judged God wrong as a wicked tyrant and told many people this throughout your life.... ... I'd rather be standing in my shoes before God, than in yours in judging His character.as harsh and angry..

 

[Preacher4Truth]

That remark is way over the top. And that "if" is a big "if", since the distortion of God's character and God's Gospel is a very serious matter. And since the Calvinist Gospel is not the true Gospel of God and Christ, this Scripture would apply.

GALATIANS 1
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

You're clueless and have zero idea about what you're saying. Oh, so we're "accursed?"

The fact remains that your gospel of being saved because of something you've done, and not all of Christ fits the context of that damning passage. That is your false message and the message of many on here: saved because God saw you'd do this and that so he chose you based on that work. That you had your own faith. That you came to God but Christ said your incapable. All of that equals a false works gospel. All contrary to 1 Corinthians 1:26-31 and changing undeserved favor which is grace into meritorious salvation.

Show us all how what we believe has anything to do with what Paul states in that context. We believe salvation is 100% of God, none of us, all to His glory.

Now, tell us exactly how and for what reason that's a false Gospel.

I'll be waiting to dismantle with contextual Scripture each point you make.

Now, tell us what part of this Gospel we give on this very forum is damnable by contextual use of Galatians 1:8-10. I'll be waiting and get to the point.

 

[Helen]

It's simple. If you consider the Calvinistic view of God and those who abhor it, they abhor God if the Calvinists are right.

Nah, I must be thick headed today...I still can't see why???? Sorry..never mind, I just don't get it.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

It's simple. If you consider the Calvinistic view of God and those who abhor it, they abhor God if the Calvinists are right.

Yes, it is simple. We present the true God of Scripture in all his glory. They see this as not the true God and blaspheme what we show them.

If we present the true God, and some react with hostility towards that God, it shows they actually then hate God. And we know the lost man hates God.