Pretrib fallacies

[Taken]

All should read this and stop trying to frighten believers into believing they can lose their salvation.

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GeneZ … yes

IF I buy YOU a Gift…
The Gift was bought for YOU…
The Gift IS YOURS.

If I OFFER the Gift to YOU…
And YOU refuse to reach out and TAKE the Gift…

WHO HAS YOUR Gift?
YOU or Me? Me … Right?

WHO does NOT Have YOUR Gift?
YOU or Me? You…Right?

Who has suffered the LOSS of Not Posessing The Gift? … You…Right?

Jesus Bought All men A Gift.

Jesus Offered All men The Gift He Bought For Them.

Any man who Does NOT Reach Out and Take his Gift…
LOSES HAVING his Gift… Right?

That IS HOW a man LOSES his Gift of Salvation…
“FROM Jesus.”…Who Paid For and Offered His Gift of Salvation.

The False teaching (by some) is claiming …
1) they Received their Gift of Salvation From Jesus)…
2) and The man MUST Work to Keep his Gift of Salvation.
3) that the man Who has received his Gift of Salvation from Jesus, is continually in A frenzy of Fear the man might Lose (have taken AWAY), his Salvation.

^^ Utter Lies ^^[/B]





How to assuredly KNOW a man WHO HAS RECEIVED his Gift of Salvation, “Can NEVER Lose (have taken Away), His Gift of Salvation”?

Not mysterious. Simple.

The Requirement, Timing… of WHEN a man
RECEIVES his Salvation Gift!

A man “RECEIVES” his Gift of Salvation…
From Jesus…
* AFTER… the man Willingly Confesses “his Heartful Belief In Jesus”…
* AFTER… the man willingly Lays down unto Death his OWN body For his Belief IN The Lord God. ( Crucified with Jesus)
* AFTER…Gods Heavenly “BOOKS” ( records / Evidence )… Reveal the entry of the man’s NAME …
Written IN the Lambs Book of Life.

How Does… an accounted Dead body…MAKE any Choices… to Reject his Gift?
Not possible.

When does ANY teaching of Gods Word claim a mans NAME in the “Lamb’s Book of Life” can be “erased, blotted out, Stricken”?
Never.

By what POWER, is a man Having Received his Gift of Salvation From Jesus… Keeping his Belief and Gift of Salvation?
The man’s Power? No
Kings of the Earth? No
Influential Celebrities? No
Wealthy people? No.
Parents, Kin-folks? No
Pastors? No
Prophets? No
Afraid Fear? No
By the spirit Power of God “Dwelling IN the man”? Yes.

Who IS the Power of God? Christ
Who IS Christ? Jesus
Who IS Jesus? Gods Word.
What IS Gods Word? Life, Truth.

What does the Truth Teach?

John 14:
[16] And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
[17] Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
[18] I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
[19] Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
[20] At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

At WHAT day?
John 14:
[1] Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

No. A mans cannot receive Salvation…Keep Salvation by his power or lose his “received” Salvation by any power.

God bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[WPM]

People have challenged my teachings all the time.
I have no problem with that.
It is your manner that bothers me.

I once knew a nasty person who you remind me of.
He thrived on nasty.
It was weird to witness to.

Look in the mirror. Classic case of projection! You are describing yourself. Nasty person! You are not interested in discussing Scripture. Just throwing ad hominem.

 

[GeneZ]

And boy, is your false fruit easily revealed, because Lord Jesus revealed His future coming to gather His saints will be AFTER... the tribulation, as written in Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27 as direct statements. Even in 1 Thessalonians 4 Apostle Paul revealed the time of Christ's coming to gather His Church coincides with the future resurrection day, which is the last day of this world.

You really need to repent, and come out of Babylon, of which that false pre-trib rapture theory is designed to lead the deceived to.

OK... you are all from one sect I see.

That has been estabished.

So!?

How could the resurrection day be the end of this world?
When it says that resurrected believers will reign with Him in their resurrrection bodies?
Reign over who? Over what?
Rule with a rod of iron smashing enemies of God during the Millennium?

To the one who is victorious and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations​

— that one ‘will rule them with an iron scepter and will dash them to pieces like pottery’—​

just as I have received authority from my Father. Revelation 2:26-27​

It is not simple. We need to stop thinking it always is.

 

[WPM]

OK... you are all from one sect I see.

That has been estabished.

So!?

How could the resurrection day be the end of this world?
When it says that resurrected believers will reign with Him in their resurrrection bodies?
Reign over who? Over what?
Rule with a rod of iron smashing enemies of God during the Millennium?

To the one who is victorious and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations​

— that one ‘will rule them with an iron scepter and will dash them to pieces like pottery’—​

just as I have received authority from my Father. Revelation 2:26-27​

It is not simple. We need to stop thinking it always is.

Because the symbolic millennial period started with the binding of Satan during thd earthly ministry of Jesus. Jesus has defeated Satan. Jesus is reigning now!!!

 

[CrowCross]

In all these: He is coming "with" and "for" His saints. It is the end! The wicked are destroyed and the world is regenerated. It sees a general resurrection and judgment.

You dodged the question again.
Where is the white horse at Jesus ascension?
What was the social economical times like with Noah and Lot? How will that be like..."it's the end!" as you put it.