Prophect Alert - Be ready to endure the last days

[Davy]

The safety of all the faithful Christians during the 1260 days of the GT, is where the Lord will physically take them to. Revelation 12:14

That's a spiritual metaphor, just like the rest of that Rev.12 chapter is also...

Rev 12:15-17
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
KJV

The protection is spiritual, because the symbolic flood of waters that comes out of the MOUTH of the serpent (Satan) represents words that cause deception (into false worship of him in place of God). It is the same idea in Rev.9 with what comes out of the mouths of the locusts.

 

[Keraz]

The protection is spiritual, because the symbolic flood of waters that comes out of the MOUTH of the serpent (Satan)

The 'flood' in Revelation 12:15-16, is an allegory for the army that chases after the Christians, that the earth will bury like what happened to Korah and his family during the Exodus.
The locusts of Rev 9:1-11 have nothing to do with deception, only punishment of the ungodly, already deceived.

 

[Bobby Jo]

So me suggesting people have the wrong emphasis on end times prophecy is now taking away from the book of revelations.

My Bible is missing TWO PAGES which were torn out by someone who didn't think Bible Prophecy was an important aspect for GOD/the church/religion/whatever. And that's ok, so long as when the banquet is served everyone is content with all the side dishes but absent the MEAT.

Case in point:

"Repent and believe in Jesus ..."​

Hebrews 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.​

We All Choose,
Bobby Jo

 

[FollowHim]

My Bible is missing TWO PAGES which were torn out by someone who didn't think Bible Prophecy was an important aspect for GOD/the church/religion/whatever. And that's ok, so long as when the banquet is served everyone is content with all the side dishes but absent the MEAT.

Case in point:

"Repent and believe in Jesus ..."​

Hebrews 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.​

We All Choose,
Bobby Jo

The real power of Christ is in the life and heart we walk with. Prophecy is part of this, especially when Gods people are being persecuted and killed. Prophecy of the end times tells of the dark times, Gods judgement and final deliverance. It is this deliverance that makes the walk hopeful and in victory. Without deliverance our walk in in vain.

The real problem in when people do not know how to live emotionally and openly in love and the Holy Spirit. That is the strong meat of the gospel, the ability to bear sins of sinners and forgive them as Christ forgave us and sacrifice on their behalf, so that the Kingdom might grow and Jesus be glorified for the work He has done is us, Praise the Lord. Amen. God bless you

 

[Bobby Jo]

... the strong meat of the gospel, the ability to bear sins of sinners and forgive them ...

1 Cor. 14:1 Make love your aim, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy.​

There's Scriptures, and there's doctrines of men. Perhaps you should preach the former, rather than the latter ...


We All Choose,
Bobby Jo


TO ALL,

Some assert that Scripture is somewhere between 1/4 to 1/3rd prophetic. Apparently some people wish to disregard some ~8,400 verses out of HIS total ~31,000 verses. Perhaps GOD should listen to much more well considered individuals such as @FollowHim, who apparently has no use for such nonsense. @FollowHim would apparently rather sing another verse of "Jesus Love Me", over and over and over and over and over and ... well, you get the idea.

GOD, -- you should listen to @FollowHim, instead of wasting our time on useless information, 'cause he OBVIOUSLY knows better than YOU.!
Bobby Jo

 

[FollowHim]

Prophecy is speaking forth Gods word to a particular situation.
This is not the same as putting certain emphasis on last times prophecy and that is the most important aspect of our walk in Christ. As people spend most of their life worrying about safety, their homes, their futures, their childrens future, suggesting this can change because the Kingdom is coming is quite a different step.

So worldly believers who focus not on the Kingdom but on the world are easily influenced by ideas that the major focus of their efforts and worry has now shifted because the Kingdom is coming next week.

But unfortunately the impact this has on certain believers demonstrates that their focus is on this world all along. And because it is so, the impact of end times prophecy is so important. Why work if soon work, food, housing will all change.

In the Lord if one is rejoicing in what He has blessed us with and you are reaching out and supporting people where they are, if the Lord returns, Amen, if not, Amen, His work goes on.

So how you view this depends solely where you heart is and what you worry about. Is work a means to an end of service, or the security one has in this world?

 

[Bobby Jo]

... emphasis on last times prophecy ...

It's OK if you disregard some 1/4 to 1/3rd of what GOD would have for you and your family to keep you from suffering loss.

Good Luck,
Bobby Jo

 

[FollowHim]

It's OK if you disregard some 1/4 to 1/3rd of what GOD would have for you and your family to keep you from suffering loss.

Good Luck,
Bobby Jo

I am sorry this means nothing to me. For me to live is Christ, to die is gain. This is our walk.

It seems rather than amplifying this you are replacing it. As I shared, the way of the world.

 

[Davy]

The 'flood' in Revelation 12:15-16, is an allegory for the army that chases after the Christians, that the earth will bury like what happened to Korah and his family during the Exodus.
The locusts of Rev 9:1-11 have nothing to do with deception, only punishment of the ungodly, already deceived.

The locusts of Rev.9 have EVERYTHING to do with deception. They are related to the end time prophecies written in the Book of Joel.

In Rev.9:1-4, the locusts are not allowed to hurt any green thing, and only 'sting' those not sealed with God's seal. They cannot kill them. And later in that chapter we are show them as the great locust army of the Book of Joel. And we are shown their 'power' is in their 'mouth'.

What comes out of one's mouth? Words.

In the case of the locust army, it's about words that cause deception. That is what the stinging and the killing in that chapter is about.

 

[Keraz]

In the case of the locust army, it's about words that cause deception. That is what the stinging and the killing in that chapter is about.

What is prophesied in Joel 1:5-7 and Joel 2:1-11, is a allegorical description of the huge Coronal Mass Ejection that will strike the Middle East at mid day; Zephaniah 2:4 Proved by the mentions of fire and things being burned up then.

The Fifth Trumpet punishment, Rev 9:1-10, is a different and later event. They seem to be demonic entities.

You just believe what suits you, but whatever you post, be sure to back it up with scriptural proofs.

 

[Davy]

What is prophesied in Joel 1:5-7 and Joel 2:1-11, is a allegorical description of the huge Coronal Mass Ejection that will strike the Middle East at mid day; Zephaniah 2:4 Proved by the mentions of fire and things being burned up then.

The Fifth Trumpet punishment, Rev 9:1-10, is a different and later event. They seem to be demonic entities.

You just believe what suits you, but whatever you post, be sure to back it up with scriptural proofs.

I don't have time to cover the whole of the Joel 1 & 2 chapters, and that's the only way to really teach it. But in summary, God is asking each generation if they see those events, and tells each generation to pass it on until the generation comes that sees it.

The locust army is a metaphor God gives there for "a nation" (Joel 1:6), meaning a certain people that comes upon the land of His people stealing their wealth and conquering them, sneakingly, and not by literal military means. He gives analogies for that army being unstoppable, and if they fall on a sword it won't wound them (Joel 2:8). With a real army it would, so those are type ideas to show this isn't about a literal military army, but a certain people that ACT like one by the way they completely take over.

Joel 2:3-5
3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
KJV

Those horses, horsemen, and chariot ideas were repeated in the Rev.9 example about this locust army.

Joel 2:9-11
9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
11 And the LORD shall utter His voice before His army: for His camp is very great: for He is strong that executeth His word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
KJV

The passage in green is tribulation timing. The passage in red is the last day of this world that ends that tribulation on the "day of the Lord", which is when Jesus returns to fight with His army per Rev.19.

That locust army, which in Joel 2:25 God said He sent, represents today's world controllers who are leading all nations into a "one world government" in preparation for the coming pseudo-Christ (Satan) in Jerusalem for the very end of this world. The time of great tribulation is to serve as a pruning of the dead branches, not the live ones.

 

[Keraz]

Davy, I disagree with your interpretation of Joel. It does not fit with other prophesies about the Day of the Lord's fiery wrath.
Do locusts, real or allegorical, cause cosmic effects?

 

[Davy]

Davy, I disagree with your interpretation of Joel. It does not fit with other prophesies about the Day of the Lord's fiery wrath.
Do locusts, real or allegorical, cause cosmic effects?

I don't see any such cosmic effect written of in God's Word. God's consuming fire will burn man's works off the surface of this earth without harming His creation (see end of Hebrews 12). What you're talking about would destroy everything.

 

[Keraz]

I don't see any such cosmic effect written of in God's Word. God's consuming fire will burn man's works off the surface of this earth without harming His creation (see end of Hebrews 12). What you're talking about would destroy everything.

You obviously haven't read or understood what the prophesies actually do say what will happen when the Lord sends fire upon is enemies. Not the same as when the earth is remade after the Millennium. 2 Peter 3:1-13, Revelation 21:1-7

When the Lord sends fire, Amos 1 and 2:1-5, Habakkuk 3:12, Romans 1:18, his enemies will be burnt up, Malachi 4:3, but allwho stand strong in their faith in God and call upon the Name of Jesus, Joel 2:32. Acts 2:21, will be saved. Isaiah 43:2

 

[Waiting on him]

The 'flood' in Revelation 12:15-16, is an allegory for the army that chases after the Christians, that the earth will bury like what happened to Korah and his family during the Exodus.
The locusts of Rev 9:1-11 have nothing to do with deception, only punishment of the ungodly, already deceived.

Notice how in the Old Testament the locust have no king, but in the New Testament suddenly they have a king?

 

[Bobby Jo]

... For me to live is Christ, to die is gain. This is our walk. ...

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.​

The Bible is NOT like a buffet line where you pick and choose what suits your religious agenda.

Whew,
Bobby Jo

 

[FollowHim]

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.​

The Bible is NOT like a buffet line where you pick and choose what suits your religious agenda.

Whew,
Bobby Jo

Somewhere there is a point you are trying to make.

The prophets are saying repent of one's sins. Judgement is coming. There are variations of when and where. As God's people we have repented and walk in His ways. Amen.

So what is your point? If it is people need to do more because of the prophecies, the answer is yes it is coming, so let us walk closer with Jesus and shine brighter still, Amen

 

[Keraz]

I can't speak for others here, but my point on this thread, is that there is no supernatural 'escape', away from what is to come on earth. There is no 'rapture' to heaven for anyone other than the two Witnesses and they get killed first.

We Christians should know what God has planned for His people in these last few years before Jesus Returns. If we don't, then we are in the dark, a situation that Paul says we should not be in. 1 Thessalonians 5:3
And the sad thing is; they are plans for our good and He promises to bless us mightily, not for hardship and troubles, for all who stand firm in their faith.

 

[Davy]

You obviously haven't read or understood what the prophesies actually do say what will happen when the Lord sends fire upon is enemies. Not the same as when the earth is remade after the Millennium. 2 Peter 3:1-13, Revelation 21:1-7

When the Lord sends fire, Amos 1 and 2:1-5, Habakkuk 3:12, Romans 1:18, his enemies will be burnt up, Malachi 4:3, but allwho stand strong in their faith in God and call upon the Name of Jesus, Joel 2:32. Acts 2:21, will be saved. Isaiah 43:2

I have... read the prophecies you speak of, but I don't add some cosmic idea to them like you're trying to do. I stick to the examples God gives in His Word for His concept of Fire. And nor did I even bring up the Fire event of Rev.20 at the end of Christ's future thousand years reign. That is a separate event from God's consuming fire of 2 Peter 3:10 which will end this present world.


Notice the last verse says emphatically, "For our God is a consuming fire." Our Heavenly Father is not just going to send a consuming fire upon the earth on the last day, He is... a consuming fire. So is He the sun? a star in our solar system? No! But the pagans thought so, and even worshiped the sun instead, a material object within our material dimension. God's consuming fire will come from that other dimension upon the earth to cleanse it a 3rd time, because who in this earthly dimension could live with His everlasting burnings? (Isa.33:13-14)

Heb 12:25-29
25 See that ye refuse not Him That speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused Him That spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from Him That speaketh from heaven:
26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now He hath promised, saying, "Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven."
27 And this word, 'Yet once more', signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29 For our God is a consuming fire.
KJV

 

[Bobby Jo]

... let us walk closer with Jesus ...

Only an ill considered individual ignores Jesus' guidance. Luke 22:35-36

Whew,
Bobby Jo