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Scripture proves today's tongues and prophecy are fraudulent.Scripture doesn't say they are fraudulent. Has the Holy Spirit told you this?
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Scripture proves today's tongues and prophecy are fraudulent.Scripture doesn't say they are fraudulent. Has the Holy Spirit told you this?
Stranger
Not vocally. But through wisdom and discernment. Also faith can predict the future as it relates to me when grounded in God's word.
Based on scripture.But the Holy Spirit communicates with you, correct? You are not saying He is just your wisdom and discernment are you? You said you have the Holy Spirit. And He communicates with you in leading you. And this is done outside of the Scripture.
Stranger
Scripture proves today's tongues and prophecy are fraudulent.
Scripture is the perfect collection of tongues and prophecy that proves they no longer exist.No, they do not. There is no Scripture that disproves the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
Stranger
Based on scripture.
Voices in head = not good. But the leading of the Spirit and all it involves = very good.Our whole Christian lives are based on Scripture. That doesn't disprove the leading of the Holy Spirit outside of the Scripture. That doesn't disprove the revealing of things to us that are not said in Scripture.
What are you saying? The Holy Spirit never says anything to you but what He can quote in the Bible?
Stranger
Scripture is the perfect collection of tongues and prophecy that proves they no longer exist.
Voices in head = not good. But the leading of the Spirit and all it involves = very good.
They became the NT scriptures. Think about it. All they had was the OT. The earliest NT scriptures didn't exist until 40-50 CE. Tongues and Prophecy were the NT scriptures being written and passed around as the only NT word of God. That was their purpose.That is a lie. You force Scripture to contradict itself. The gift of tongues and prophecy is not the Scriptures.
Stranger
“For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.” (Philippians 2:13) (KJV 1900)No one is talking about voices in the head. I am talking about the leading of the Spirit You are saying there is no leading of the Spirit, as you just read the Bible.
The Spirit will not contradict the Scripture, but the Spirit leads us in many ways that Scripture does not address.
You however, make null and void the Spirit in the believers life.
Stranger
They became the NT scriptures. Think about it. All they had was the OT. The earliest NT scriptures didn't exist until 40-50 CE. Tongues and Prophecy were the NT scriptures being written and passed around as the only NT word of God. That was their purpose.
“For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.” (Philippians 2:13) (KJV 1900)
Not today, certainly. But what other New Covenant word of God was there in the first century?The gifts of tongues and prophecy are not the Scriptures.
Stranger
We have all we need in scripture.Exactly right. So?
Stranger
We have all we need in scripture.
So?That is not what that Scripture was saying. You revert back to your chant. That Scripture was speaking of the leading of the Spirit. And experience between the believer and the Spirit.
Stanger
I agree. The Holy Spirit leads and guides us using scripture and wisdom. And along with that using love as our guide in decision making.So just like the Holy Spirit leads a believer on a daily basis pertaining to things not in the Scripture, so the Holy Spirit has given gifts to each member of the Body of Christ to minister to one another concerning their daily lives here. Concerning their situations in life today.
Stranger
I agree. The Holy Spirit leads and guides us using scripture and wisdom. And along with that using love as our guide in decision making.