Reason for The Crusades explained

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Marvelloustime

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what some fail to realize is
they are under the law , the law of the pope , of t rump and thus see the kingdom as earthen
and they as the judges of the law .
And kinda odd how that law of men seems to be used to support only certain parts of the LAW f irst given by MOSES
but DARN SURE TRANGRESSES the very law as well .
People are blind sister and blinded by their own hearts desires . whether it be to the pope , or trump who do that bidding ,
or whoever and whatever man arises who can give them and promise them
their best life now , their peace n safety in this world .
As by the law given of MOSES
by which the pattern of the tabernacle was patterened ONLY AFTER the heavenly BUT NOT THE VER YHEAVENLY
who went into the land of canan to establish this KINGDOM
and of course were ordered b y GOD to cleanse the land of the wicked .
Yet even the very law , prophets , torah , abraham himself and others
KNEW WHO WAS COMING whose kingdom would NOT be built after the pattern of THE TRUE
BUT OF THE VERY TRUE ITSELF .
OH yeah there has been a change in the law . We aint to be the judge of it .
AND NOW THE KINGDOM is HEAVENLY , not the pattern of the heavenly , BUT THE HEAVENLY ITSELF .
but most have about zero idea of what i jus said .
Paul showed us an example of this allegory . AND HE SAID WHICH ONE WAS STILL IN BoNDAGE
and which one IS THE FREE . THE EARTHREN one was NOT THE F REE ONE , its the one IN BONDAGE .
ITS THE HEAVENLY JERSUALEM which is FREE and mother to all the sheep . this people have no idea what that even means .
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Not even one little bit. I'm not saying we don't need the feminine. We do. It's that we also need the masculine. Desmond Doss would have been wiped out if it had not been for brave, masculine warriors who ultimately defeated the enemy. Simply put, evil in this world is not overcome by kindly wishing they transform or loving dialogue.

Evil is overcome by violence, which is the ultimate solution of our Lord by casting them into the Lake of Fire for annihilation. We should follow Jesus' lead -and thank God, despite the likes of you, we are.

Your arguments against Doss, Jesus, the Apostles, the martyrs, and pacifists through the centuries - Christian and non-Christian alike - doesn’t align with the New Testament image of masculinity. Your characterization of those who do not arm themselves and aren’t prepared to kill their enemies as Man in form but without substance is worse than weak.

In the teaching of Jesus and the Apostles, evil is overcome by good. The unidentified church you are hiding behind - that cult is your teacher - hasn’t properly instructed you on the New Testament.

You say that you‘re doing violence to your enemies but you haven’t provided any statistics for your exploits. Maybe you have them, maybe you don’t. I think you’re a frustrated paper tiger. It’s not that I don’t think you would love to attack your enemies and “put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys” - I‘m convinced that you would love to do that - it’s that I think you’ve been unable to do what you want to do. You’re living you’re fantasy life on the forum, not in the world.
 

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Don’t couch your cowardice pacifism as moral superiority.

You approve of Christians killing Christians in war; even encouraging it. You call it good.

I disapprove of Christians killing Christians in war; discouraging it. I call it evil.

Christians killing Christians.

There is no doubt in my mind that I hold the moral high ground. You’re just going to have to swallow hard and live with it, much as it galls you.

The same goes for you @Armour of God.
 

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Pop quiz time. Who came up with the “Just War“ theory?

Was it:

A. Jesus of Nazareth
B. Paul the Apostle
C. Barnabas
D. The Crusaders
E. None of the above

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Pick “E” and win a prize
 

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Kill one of the Messiah’s brothers in one of the wars of the nations @Wrangler and @Armour of God and find out what the Messiah will say and do with you. (It won’t be “Well done, good and faithful servant” - that is your reward from Caesar for the service you rendered to him.)
 

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Jesus did not use a spiritual whip, but a carnal, worldly, literally fleshy whip.

How many men, women, and children did he kill with the whip?
How many men, women and children did he even strike with the whip?

Search the scriptures.
 

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A little reading to occupy our time while we wait for @Wrangler to present us with the whipping figures.

(Bruce Gillette, ”Did Jesus whip people? Personal reflections on a troubling Bible story”)


Very good.
 
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Matthias

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You approve of Christians killing Christians in war; even encouraging it. You call it good.

I disapprove of Christians killing Christians in war; discouraging it. I call it evil.

Christians killing Christians.

There is no doubt in my mind that I hold the moral high ground. You’re just going to have to swallow hard and live with it, much as it galls you.

The same goes for you @Armour of God.

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That I need to hold this sign in front of non-Christians is sad.

That I need to hold this sign in front of Christians is sadder still @Wrangler and @Armour of God

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Don’t kill Christians, Christians.

Don’t kill non-Christians, Christians.

If we can ever clear that Christian hurdle, then we can try to clear that non-Christian hurdle. Both hurdles must be cleared if we want to follow Jesus.
 

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Obviously, the Muslim apologist and supporter of evil doesn't feel he has to follow Christs commands like buy a sword and give to Caesar what is Caesar's as it conflicts with his anti-Christ pacifism.
 

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How many men, women, and children did he kill with the whip?
How many men, women and children did he even strike with the whip?

Search the scriptures.
The question is how many will Jesus Christ kill immediately upon his 2nd Coming and on Judgment Day? Search the scriptures.
 

Matthias

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The question is how many will Jesus Christ kill immediately upon his 2nd Coming and on Judgment Day?

That’s not the question I asked you. My question is: How many men, women and children did he kill or even strike with the whip? You simply ignored it. The answer is none; zero.

Search the scriptures.

The answer to your question is in the billions.
 

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Obviously, the Muslim apologist and supporter of evil doesn't feel he has to follow Christs commands like buy a sword and give to Caesar what is Caesar's as it conflicts with his anti-Christ pacifism.

“As the Church entered the third century, the position of Christian pacifism remained intact, …”

(Ergun Mehmet Caner and Emir Fethi Caner, Christian Jihad, p. 29)
 

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“Though it shall be illustrated that Christians were serving in the military by the third century of the church, the early pastors and ministers in the leading churches still held to an anti-war stance well into the fourth century.”

(Ergun Mehmet Caner and Emir Fethi Caner, Christian Jihad, p. 36)

Compare and contrast that with the teaching of @Wrangler and his concealed identity church:

You are not following Jesus if you aren’t armed, ready to kill.

What does Wrangler and his concealed identity cult say about Christian pastors and ministers, such as myself, who hold an anti-war stance?

Man in form but without substance.

He and his cult wipe out the Christian pastors and ministers of the first three to four centuries of Christian history (and all Christian pastors and ministers since then who have held their stance against Christian participation in war) and seek to degrade them personally. That is the work of the devil.

P.S.

@Armour of God the early Christian pastors and ministers weren’t “Muslim apologists and supporters of evil,” and neither am I.

I’m a 1st century Christian pastor and minister living in the 21st century.
 
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That I need to hold this sign in front of non-Christians is sad.

That I need to hold this sign in front of Christians is sadder still @Wrangler and @Armour of God

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Don’t kill Christians, Christians.

Don’t kill non-Christians, Christians.

If we can ever clear that Christian hurdle, then we can try to clear that non-Christian hurdle. Both hurdles must be cleared if we want to follow Jesus.

“Woe to those who call evil good and good evil” (Isaiah 5:20).

Muslims killing Christians is evil, not good. Christians killing Christians is evil, not good. Christians killing non-Christians is evil, not good.

@Armour of God and @Wrangler
 

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The answer to your question is in the billions.
Agreed. Christ is our model to emulate and he'll kill plenty. So should we when justice demands it.

The fact that he killed no one during is lamb appearance changes nothing. He said to give to Caesar what is Caesar's, buy a sword, used violence in flipping a table and don't pretend whipping at people is an act of pacifism. You only want to selectively follow Christ.
 

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Agreed. Christ is our model to emulate and he'll kill plenty. So should we when justice demands it.

The fact that he killed no one during is lamb appearance changes nothing. He said to give to Caesar what is Caesar's, buy a sword, used violence in flipping a table and don't pretend whipping at people is an act of pacifism. You only want to selectively follow Christ.

Showing once again that you haven’t been properly instructed by your concealed identity church on how to rightly apply scripture.

My regular readers - as well as my students and congregation members - will recall me saying that we must obey Messiah in all circumstances, not selectively.
 

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“… the common desire to avoid any participation in armed conflict is evident. Virtually every bishop who wrote treatises and addressed the subject spoke passionately against any Christian partaking in the shedding of blood, innocent or otherwise. Even in the midst of armed conflict, the Christian’s chief weapon was considered to be that of active prayer and labor for peace. As citizen’s of heaven (polituema), this was the Christian’s most effective service.”

( Christian Jihad, p. 38)

The difference in attitude and instruction between the early Christian churches and the concealed identity church @Wrangler attends couldn’t be more stark.