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no Christ rules for eternity and we with Him, once the old earth is replaced with a new earth at the end of the Millennium.
the new covenant church is the new heaven and earth it’s spiritual
We are a new creation in Christ
The church is the heavenly new Jerusalem
Holy mother church
As a Premillennialist I have to disagree. This world right now is run by the prince of the air, the god of this world, Satan and the evidence is all around us of that depravity, the millennial kingdom will not be like that. Before that can happen the church of the saints has to rise and give their testimony (Martyria) before the beast/Antichrist as the number of saints is fulfilled according to the fifth seal.
Premillennialist is a person that believes the millennial Kingdom of Christ is yet to come, in the future... sometimes referred to as futurists. We believe that Satan will be thrown down from heaven to the earth at the beginning of the great tribulation because of the testimony of the saints (Revelation 12:10-11) and after ruling for 42 months empowering the beast of Revelation 13 he will be overthrown by the second coming of Christ who sets. I Do believe in the rapture, but i believe in a pre wrath rapture.... The righteous have never witnessed the wrath of God. Noah was sealed in the ark, the Israelites in their homes behind the passover blood, those made righteous by the blood of the lamb also will be spared the wrath of God.
the kingdom came 2000 yrs ago and there’s no rapture!
how can Christ give Peter the keys of the kingdom Matt 16:18-19 or tell us the kingdom is at hand Matt 3:2 or the kingdom has (past tense) come upon you Matt 12:28 or tell us to seek the kingdom Matt 6:33 if it don’t exist???
Prophecy of the new covenant and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (The new covenant church) Jn 15:1-5
Dan 2: 44 And in the days of these kings (Roman Caesars) shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
Isaiah 2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
Micah 4:1
But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.
Daniel 7:18
But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;
Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
Matthew 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Matt 21:43 taken from Israel given to Peter and the apostles Matt 16:18-19 18:18 Jn 20:21 eph 2:20
1 Peter 4:11
If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Jude 1:8
Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Jude 1:25
To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
Christ is king and has all authority and dominion!
Christ appointed Peter, the apostles, and their successors to govern the church and administer the kingdom until He returns in glory!
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Jim B
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You have a very, very strange definition of "fact". And if you're trying to state something as true, why not use a spell checker if you have to? The word that you use to accuse the respected scholars Wescott and Hort (proper names should be capitalized) should be "charlatans". BTW, that is simply your false opinion, nothing more.
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Brooke Foss Westcott (1825–1901) and Fenton John Anthony Hort (1828–1892) were nineteenth-century theologians and Bible and textual scholars. Together, they produced The New Testament in the Original Greek of 1881, the pinnacle of textual studies by dozens of textual scholars since the days of Erasmus in 1536. This critical Greek text is the foundation text of the Nestle-Aland Greek Text and the United Bible Societies Greek text.
The climax of this restoration era goes to the immediate successors of these men, the two English Bible scholars B. F. Westcott and F. J. A. Hort, upon whose text the United Bible Society is based, which is the foundation for all modern-day translations of the Bible. Westcott and Hort began their work in 1853 and finished it in 1881, working for twenty-eight years independently of each other, yet frequently comparing notes. As the Scottish biblical scholar Alexander Souter expressed it, they “gathered up in themselves all that was most valuable in the work of their predecessors. The maxims which they enunciated on questions of the text are of such importance.” (Souter 1913, 118) They took all imaginable factors into consideration in laboring to resolve the difficulties that conflicting texts presented, and when two readings had equal weight, they indicated that in their text. They emphasized, “Knowledge of documents should precede final judgment upon readings” and “all trustworthy restoration of corrupted texts is founded on the study of their history.” They followed Griesbach in dividing manuscripts into families, stressing the significance of manuscript genealogy. In addition, they gave due weight to internal evidence, “intrinsic probability” and “transcriptional probability,” that is, what the original author most likely wrote and wherein a copyist may most likely have made a mistake.
Source: Christian Publishing House
Jim B
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More parrot-babble. Jesus only called one person (other than Satan) "Satan". Guess who that was: Peter! He also called him a stumbling block and said he had the thoughts of men in mind, not God's thoughts. Peter also denied Jesus three times! That is the guy on whom your denomination is built. Try joining the rest of us, who build our faith on Jesus Christ, not on some fallible Christ-denier.
Jim B
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one step at a time first He called Peter
Then appointed him vicar and head of the visible church on earth
Then breathed on them filling them with the power of the spirit
Jim B
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Yes, the liberals use that bit in the Constitution to let in all sorts of Jesus-rejecters-
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Apparently you're obviously not fsmiliar with the First Amendment to the Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Anyone who calls himself or herself an American should respect the First Amendment, so what's your problem?
Jim B
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I repeat (for the nth time): Jesus only called one person (other than Satan) "Satan". Peter! He also called him a stumbling block and said he had the thoughts of men in mind, not God's thoughts. Peter also denied Jesus three times! That is the guy on whom your denomination is built. Try joining the rest of us, who build our faith on Jesus Christ, not on some fallible Christ-denier.
Jim B
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The word "vicar" is not in the Bible.
One step at a time. First He called Peter "Satan". Jesus never called any other person "Satan"! Matthew 16:23, "But he turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me, because you are not setting your mind on God’s interests, but on man’s.”
So your denomination is built on the fallible Christ-denier whom Jesus called "Satan" and "a stumbling block" (as opposed to a rock) and said that he had his mind set on man's interests instead of God's interests. It's no wonder that the Catholic denomination is such a poor testament to Christianity!
The Spiritual kingdom did, not the earthly kingdom, Cant have a kingdom without a king.... The second coming is when the earthly kingdom begins.
amigo de christo
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It would not have mattered is wescott or hort had appeared even at the beginning of said churches or even in the year two thousand and twenty one
What they believed , what they followed and what they had taught proves they false . And when i say false
i dont mean they taught something small that was in error , THEY LIVED as worse as i once did . THEY FALSE . THEY wanted
to change the original version to suit their own perditional thoughts . PS i have no idea if even the word perditional exists .
I know perdition does . But i think A FEW folks will at least understand what i meant by PERDITIONAL.
But in case none does let me give us the definition of my invented word .
Perditional . One who taught or teaches views that lead not to salvation , not to Christ but rather to PERDITION , rather too anti christ
and the spirit of anti christ .
These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
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