Repentance is the Gift Of God !

[brightfame52]

Of course repentance is a choice made by man.

Your theology defies common sense.

You are deceived friend. Repentance is a gift given by God to His Elect people Acts 5:31!

 

[justbyfaith]

You are deceived friend. Repentance is a gift given by God to His Elect people Acts 5:31!

No: I am afraid that it is you who are deceived.

For, if you have not made a decision to repent (if you have not made the 180-degree turn away from sin and towards righteousness that amounts to repenting), then you are still lost in your sins.

This is a decision that you have to make.

Jesus and the Holy Spirit are a gentleman; and they are not going to make the decision for you.

It is a decision that you must make for your own life.

Neither can any of the "wise virgins" give you their relationship with Christ. You must go to those who sell and purchase the oil that you will need to keep your lamp burning so that you will be ready for Christ's return. You must have your own relationship with Christ; your own repentance. You will not be able to enter in through the doors into the kingdom on the basis of someone else's relationship.

This is a principle in holy scripture; and it applies to the fact that no one else but you can make the decision (for you) to believe in and follow Christ.

Not even God can make that decision for you.

 

[brightfame52]

Now the Israel spoken of in Acts 5:31 to whom their Saviour gives them repentance, its not national physical Israel, but a Spiritual Israel Chosen in Christ, and it includes some Gentiles Acts 11:18

18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

Israel the Spiritual Seed of Abraham and of Christ has Gentiles in it!

Also the word granted in Acts 11:18 and the word give in Acts 5:31 are the same greek word didōmi.3c

 

[brightfame52]

So one of the characteristics of God given Repentance is that it leads to an acknowledgement of the Truth as it is in Christ Jesus opposed to false doctrines sown by the devil and his servants 2 Tim 2:25-26

In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

Believing false doctrine and lies is a snare of the devil, only God can deliver us from !27c

 

[justbyfaith]

So one of the characteristics of God given Repentance is that it leads to an acknowledgement of the Truth as it is in Christ Jesus opposed to false doctrines sown by the devil and his servants 2 Tim 2:25-26

In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

Believing false doctrine and lies is a snare of the devil, only God can deliver us from !27c

And repentance, by definition, is to make a 180-degree turn away from sin and towards righteousness.

By definition, it is a choice that you have to make.

God is not going to make that decision for you.

 

[brightfame52]

And repentance, by definition, is to make a 180-degree turn away from sin and towards righteousness.

By definition, it is a choice that you have to make.

God is not going to make that decision for you.

I know what repentance is. Did you understand the post?

 

[justbyfaith]

I know what repentance is. Did you understand the post?

I know that you probably think that "false doctrine and lies" is anything that contradicts your Calvinistic bent on things.

 

[brightfame52]

As stated, repentance is a Gift from the Saviour. Now to be more specific, how is it applied to them its given to as a Gift, namely Gods Elect ? Peter tells us here 1 Pet 1:3 34

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

All for whom Christ died, by His Resurrection from the Dead, they shall be begotten again ! These words begotten again are in the greek anagennaó and means:

I beget again, beget into a new life.

to produce again, beget again, beget anew; metaphorically: τινα, thoroughly to change the mind of one, so that he lives a new life and one conformed to the will of God

Notice that it changes the mind of one, this being begotten again. Now what is repentance ? Its the greek word metanoia and means:

repentance, a change of mind, change in the inner man.

So this repentance that is given by and through the resurrection of Christ, being begotten again, effects a change of mind, which what primarily what repentance entails. It gives also change in the inner man.

And so repentance is confirmed to be the Gift of Christ through His resurrection from the dead, and its given to all for whom He died as their Saviour !

 

[brightfame52]

I know that you probably think that "false doctrine and lies" is anything that contradicts your Calvinistic bent on things.

Post 284 did you understand it ? Lets discuss what it says.

 

[justbyfaith]

As stated, repentance is a Gift from the Saviour. Now to be more specific, how is it applied to them its given to as a Gift, namely Gods Elect ? Peter tells us here 1 Pet 1:3 34

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

All for whom Christ died, by His Resurrection from the Dead, they shall be begotten again ! These words begotten again are in the greek anagennaó and means:

I beget again, beget into a new life.

to produce again, beget again, beget anew; metaphorically: τινα, thoroughly to change the mind of one, so that he lives a new life and one conformed to the will of God

Notice that it changes the mind of one, this being begotten again. Now what is repentance ? Its the greek word metanoia and means:

repentance, a change of mind, change in the inner man.

So this repentance that is given by and through the resurrection of Christ, being begotten again, effects a change of mind, which what primarily what repentance entails. It gives also change in the inner man.

And so repentance is confirmed to be the Gift of Christ through His resurrection from the dead, and its given to all for whom He died as their Saviour !

The Lord will not force a man to repent; it remains to be a decision that is up to the man.

 

[justbyfaith]

Post 284 did you understand it ? Lets discuss what it says.

What is there to discuss?

You are certainly welcome to expound on what you said in the post in question.

 

[brightfame52]

The Lord will not force a man to repent; it remains to be a decision that is up to the man.

Where in the post is it stated anything about God forcing people to repent ? Are you reading that into the post ?

 

[brightfame52]

What is there to discuss?

You are certainly welcome to expound on what you said in the post in question.

Read post 284 and see what I have stated, and discuss that. If you dont want to, say so !

 

[justbyfaith]

Where in the post is it stated anything about God forcing people to repent ? Are you reading that into the post ?

If a man does not repent out of a free will choice, his repentance would have to be something that God does for him without regard to his free will to either receive or reject Christ.

Read post 284 and see what I have stated, and discuss that. If you don't <fify> want to, say so !

I don't really see that there is anything to discuss in that post. I have nothing to say about the post in question. So, if you have nothing else to say about the post in question, I would prefer not to discuss it; because there is nothing to discuss.

 

[brightfame52]

If a man does not repent out of a free will choice, his repentance would have to be something that God does for him without regard to his free will to either receive or reject Christ.



I don't really see that there is anything to discuss in that post. I have nothing to say about the post in question. So, if you have nothing else to say about the post in question, I would prefer not to discuss it; because there is nothing to discuss.

Post 288, did you read and understand ?

 

[justbyfaith]

Post 288, did you read and understand ?

I did; but I disagree with your underlying premise that repentance is not a choice made by man.

 

[brightfame52]

Repentance in the matter of Gospel Preaching !

Repentance in the matter of Gospel message is a Salvation Gift, its an Spiritual act that can be performed only by the Spiritual man or woman, the natural man in the state of nature cant perform it, neither is called to peform it. Remember John the Baptist told the hard hearted pharisees that came to him while performing the baptism of repentance ? Notice his words TO THEM Matt 3:7-9

7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

However, Jesus teaches this Matt 7:18

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Repentance toward God Acts 20:21 41

Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Thats a Good Fruit, and such that are left in nature cant bring it forth, simply because the natural man is evil and corrupt !

Thats right those in the flesh, the natural man, cant please God Rom 8:8

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Simply stated the unregenerate cant please God !

 

[brightfame52]

I did; but I disagree with your underlying premise that repentance is not a choice made by man.

What points i made in the post you disagree with ? Give me each one so we can discuss.

 

[justbyfaith]

What points i made in the post you disagree with ? Give me each one so we can discuss.

The underlying premise that repentance is not a choice made by man.

 

[brightfame52]

The underlying premise that repentance is not a choice made by man.

Evasion.