Heb 13:8 said:
The body of Christ knows.
No, that what you turn it into. In real world, christians actually follow Jesus. It says work out your salvation, not work for your salvation.
ok well i don't wanna get into a faith/works debate, you need both, and in the real world there are no Christians, is another valid pov. In the real world Patriotic Christians are placing hands of protection "against concentrated satanic attack" on potuses who have openly declared for satan, too. "I don't have anything to ask forgiveness for, from God or anybody," etc.
In the real world, it cannot be denied that the Official Position is worshipping a Snake on a Pole, waiting for Jesus to come, or waiting to go be with Jesus in heaven, or whatever keeps peoples' eyes glued to the past or the future. Any human on earth that is not from a Western culture could easily point out ten-twenty comparisons to my life, and those in the Promised Land, right now. I live in a divided kingdom, among warring factions. I utilize slaves, who are not being treated right. My women seek well endowed men. On and on. I could fill a page. Or i could deny that i follow any idols. The veil is very real;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcqZ_9Ga6GY&t=7s 1:42 or so
So yes, what (you) turn it into. And who can deny that the prevailing message is "come here to get saved, and you don't have to seek that anymore, because then you have blessed assurance," and "count the cost" gets obscured, you might hear a little "if you can't declare for Jesus when it's hard, among peers whose respect you desire, then recognize," which don't get me wrong, is fine for a start, but a poor reflection of the cost ok. Virtually an imitation. A counterfeit, that will do until/if you find the real one. Like Easter.
So, what the overwhelming majority turn it into, is prolly a better reflection there.
And i can agree, it is "work
out, not work for, salvation;" but the signs will be clear, when this has been absorbed as "i am out of Egypt now, laden with gold, a free man, Wandering," v "i have made it to the Promised Land." People who say they
know something, they always
know. See, when you
know, something--that you really don't know at all--you cannot learn, something you don't know, because by definition you have already claimed to know, therefore you can't simultaneously 'don't know,' meaning any new perspective on the matter is unavailable to you, you will find a "valid" reason for rejecting it. Look for it in teachers. Or rather, recognize that people naturally go looking for a
teacher, when they want to know something...and, you find what you seek.
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