With all due respect, apparently you don't read very much, then.
http://www.christianityboard.com/to...the-curse-in-the-end-times-rapture-believers/I suppose it's more of this selective reading that seems to accompany the Rapturists. Generally they don't like it when you use "too much Scripture" and when you make the obvious connections between verses that speak from different perspectives about the same trump.
I shall give the link a click and read, God be willing. Thanks for the link. And I do not believe every body reads everything in a forum except those that run it.
The entire problem with the poor supposition here is that God has to take someone away in order for His protection to be effective.
No. That is not what I had posted by His grace. In regards to Polar, judgment must fall on the House of God first. This is the seperating of the vessels of honour from the vessels of dishonour in the House of God. In regards to Christina, God can pour out His bowls of judgment that will not harm the believers that were left behind, but the beast will make war with the saints as the saints will not love their lives unto death. The saints be they that were slain under the altar.
If you want to use the above verse to illustrate taking things out of context, we've got a gem of an example. Did God take Noah out of the flood or did he instruct him to build an ark to save some?
If you are referring to 1 Corinthians 3:10-23 and Hebrews 12:1-29 from my quote in your post, then you have lost me, but if you are referring to Polar's verse in the OP, then okay. If you consider that Jesus is Our Ark, then yeah. Those sons of disobedience will be without. Remember the Passover. Apply that as what Jesus has done for us for those that believe, mixed with faith to cease from their own works as God did from His to enter into that rest. Hebrews 4:1-16
Did God take the Israelites away from Pharoah, or did he defy physics and part the sea?
Both... since alot of plagues had to occur to get the Pharoah to let them go. And yet the blood of the lamb while they were in their homes, protected them as those elect Christ bring to the Father's mansion will protect them. John 14:1-6 The fact that many shall fall away from the faith shows the penalty for the sons of disobedience for climbing up another way so that they may be restored to the path of righteousness for His name's sake at His appearing.
Did God not stand with Shadrach, Meshch and Abednego in the fiery furnace?
Hebrews 12:1-29 and 1 Corinthians 3:10-23 testifies that God will stand with those left behind for the prodigal son is still son.
How dare you suggest that Almighty God has to remove to protect! How dare you assign a false weakness to YHVH! God needed no rapture to get out any of the above, and he won't need one. The one taken in the field is the fool that thinks they'll be raptured out of here, ignoring what is written right there in front of them in Matthew 24. Blessed is the servant doing his/her job! (IE: Not wishing to be flown away when it gets a bit too hot.)
I forgive you, brother for the implication on your part towards me, but you are forgetting one important thing. Judgment will fall on the House of God first. It does not happen upon His return in setting up His kingdom. The seperating of the vessel unto honour from the vessel unto dishonour. Jesus made this promise to His disciples.. as well as to the elect John 14:1-3 That is a specific place where Jesus is now. That is where the elect will sit down with the OT saints at the marriage supper: Luke 13:24-30 Those are the saints that returns with Christ.Remmember those slain under the altar? They be those that come out of the great tribulation. So where is the place that the Lord provided for them? Why then are they to wait?
Let's go! Bring it on, I'll be happy to be here to serve my Lord. I've been given the armor to do so, as have others. The fighting is coming, the Lord will fight it through us, and we already have the victory. It is just a matter of standing fast! The fire is the Lord (Deuteronomy 4:24, Deuteronomy 9:3, Hebrews 12:29), so why should we as his children fear that fire! Just as it did for the three companions in Daniel, it will burn around us (II Peter), it will melt the elements, and we will be left and refined (Malachi 3).
Hebrews 12:29 is the fire that will scourge every child He receives so that they may be partakers of His holiness.
There is the hour! It is when those lost of the world -- some of which will certainly consider themselves Christians -- will fall for the lamb that speaks as a dragon (Revelation 13:11). For there is only one dragon and he is clearly identified in Revelation 12! There is only one Lamb, but there is an imposter that looks the part, but has no business being the part. He is surrounded by confusion and babel, some of which falsely purveys itself as Christianity. When that Anti-Christ (Greek literally instead of Christ) shows up, some will follow him, and unfortunately for many the rapture plays right into this. I only hope that eyes to see and ears to hear will sharpen up before it is too late.
Some clarity is needed on your part.Are you referring to those that seek after the Holy Spirit when He is already in them as promised for coming to and believing in Jesus? Are you referring to those that believe in Christ but engage in confusion and babel, having fallen away from their faith? When the rapture shows up, how will that aid the "enemy" in the great tribulation if his followers are there?As much emphasis you have on the urgency of the matter, then why are you all wasting time on fables? How does that help against the enemy? For all of its importance, how come fables have its own section and not that?I really believe that God is going to cast judgment on the House of God first. If believers, wayward or otherwise, want to see it as some wimp out falsehood concocted by man, then I guess we shall have to wait and see. As it is, Jesus said that it will be so bad before His appearing that only a few will find the faith... and that was towards the deceptions of the perilous times, not towards the great tribulation. All eyes will be on the mark of the beast to survive by the New World Order or not. No one can be tricked into taking the mark. Do consider that.