Phoneman777 said:
You have repeatedly accused me of falsely representing your position by claiming that you don't believe the Ten Commandments apply to Christians, so how do you explain your above statement? Are you willing to join me in proclaiming that we are obligated to keep them, including the seventh day Sabbath, or will you publicly declare that we may freely break them?
That is totally incorrect! As usual...
Where did I once claim that you missrepresented me by claiming that the 10 commandments no longer apply to Christians? That is EXACTLY what scripture teaches us and therefore EXACTLY what I believe.
Where the ACTUAL missrepresentation comes in is where you
falsely claim that what I am saying by this is that we are therefore free to BREAK them and indulge in immorality. You'll have a really, really hard time trying to find anything in my comments that indicate that since we are no longer under the Mosaic law (which includes the 10 commandments) we are free to lie, murder, steal, worship false Gods or even break the TRUE sabbath. That is
NOT what I am saying and all it does is expose what incredibly weak logic SDAs base their theology on! It also exposes the SAME kind of thoughtless conclusions that were drawn by those who opposed the apostle Paul:
"Why not say--
as we are being slanderously reported as saying and as
some claim that we say--"
Let us do evil that good may result"?
Their condemnation is deserved." (Rom 3:8)
Please put a little effort into this and at least
try to understand that saying that we are no longer under the Mosaic law is NOT equivalent to saying that we are "free to do evil". Don't draw such a dense conclusion! What I am saying, which is based on
scripture, is we are under a
completely different legal system which is NOT based on an enumerated list of static rules. We are now under a law that is living, active, effective and which produces good fruit whereas the 10 commandment failed to do this on ALL levels - just as scripture points out. The purpose of the Mosaic law was NEVER to prevent sin, but to get those who have faith in God's promises to turn to Christ!
There is NO evidence given in the NT that suggests that Christians are to focus on ANY list of rules. We might have scriptures that indicate when we are going astray from our righteous calling, but that does not mean that we are therefore still under the 10 commandments. We no longer need static lists of commandments to focus on. We now have LIVING commandments that God gives to us
individually as exemplified in the NT, as indicated in the lives of the patriarchs, and as many of us experience on a daily basis.
So stop twisting my words around trying to make me say something I am NOT saying simply for the purpose of trying to defend your faulty doctrine! If you want to defend your theology then use
scripture rather than missrepresenting what others say!