The new covenant of Christ combines the principles of the old commandments into just a few. It is the new covenant commandments that are to be kept. Read the gospels.
"Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.
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You are dividing our part (faith) from God's part (baptism) for religious purposes...and confusing your own understanding of the simplicity of what God has done for our salvation.
You have ventured out into the weeds and off the path, and should turn back, back to the gospels which are not written so as they once were, but in your heart.
You are confusing the sign with the actual baptism of the Holy Spirit.
What you have pointed out in scripture is indeed there, but it is not there for you to make a lengthy religious practice of it. It is there because the simple act of believing faith for salvation also comes with instructions on how we are to help shine the light of God to the world and future generations. But you and your fathers have claimed those things that were not for you but for others, and robbed from God to your own loss of actual spiritual life and joy--only the lessor half of what was intended. This is Jesus cutting you in two for doing what He calls the acts of an evil servant. Matthew 24:51 Read of it.
it’s covenant not a Bible study
There are requirements
baptism is the required outward sign of the inward operation of grace!
Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. Ezekiel 36:25
The words are spirit, and the reference here to "idols" includes everything that is not of the spirit--including water.
- Are you not getting any of this?
- Do you not understand that such things are like the blood of bulls--that God does not delight in these things? Isaiah 1:11
- Did you not understand the difference between John's baptism and Jesus' baptism with the Holy Spirit--that water baptism is of no value for salvation, but only points to what is made real in Christ?
- Do you not understand that there is no "clean" water in this fallen world?
He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. Mark 16:16
There is no water mentioned here. Do you not get that?
Do you not understand that the baptism of the Holy Spirit is not with water?
Eternally Grateful
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but your church does not teach baptism of any kind is where a persons sin debt is paid and he is saved forever.
And your church teach sprinking with water. Not even baptism, And not in Christ, once again in water
Eternally Grateful
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Yep, its a covenant
the PENALTY OF SIN IS DEATH,
the GIFT OF GOD IS LIFE
Its a GIFT, its not a reward. its not a wage that can be earned. Jesus paid the cost with HIS DEATH.
ONLY his death and cover your debt.
sorry not following you
Are you a manichean?
Believe in a god of good (spiritual) and a god of evil (matter)?
Christ baptism is Jesus’s baptism
It still has the outward sign of water
It’s still water baptism
Jn 3:22 they went to the river (water) and baptized
In the water!
And it’s not spirit
Baptism but the trinity Matt 28:19
Father son and holy spirit
baptism means water
Jn 3:5 by water and the spirit
I know I’m not this stupid
Do you insist on “faith alone”?
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I was afraid this might be your understanding when it is is incorrect. THAT is a neuter demonstrative and must agree with its noun antecedents in gender, number and case. "Grace" is feminine so THAT can't refer to this noun. "Faith" is feminine so THAT can't refer to this noun.
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the flesh or matter is not evil
Hod declared the entire creation to be “good”!
only behavior, disobedience or sin is evil
I don't know what a "manichean" even is.
You are still looking at the scriptures through the lens of men's teaching, which are of the flesh, and you are not "rightly dividing the word of truth" according to what is of this world and what is of the kingdom of God.
As I said, just as Christ said--and apparently you do not care to understand...the words are spirit, therefore they do not refer to the water found in this world. Those waters leave one thirsty, but “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again, but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.” John 4:13-14
Have you not read of Mary and Martha? "Only one thing is needed."
You are not hearing or seeing the difference, but have chosen the lesser part leading to destruction. I leave you to it.
I have not said "stupid", but the scriptures refer to not seeing the things of the spirit, as "blindness."
Again, you misunderstand.
"Good" even "very good", is not "perfect." That was in the beginning.
But, you have come no further. How then shall you "be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect?" Matthew 5:48
Indeed--it is evident you are only at the beginning, and need to start over.
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