Arnie Manitoba said:
I have already done my own research ...... and I do not expect it will accomplish anything for me to go point by point with James' theory
If James wants to get to the bottom of what happened at Sandy Hook , he is free to do so
But it has been my experience that some folks are not interested in getting to the truth ...... instead they are interested in promoting everything but the truth.
I have never had success trying to deal with folks like that
Why start now
Hello Arnie. What motivates me is precisely
GETTING THE TRUTH. The problem in this Sandy Hook event is trying to glean 'the truth' from all the conflicting reports from the government authorities and media talking heads. There is NO investigative journalism any more. Since the initial reports there has been precious little facts being released to the public or any formal retractions of their mis-information. I would honestly welcome your input in refuting some/all of the salient points I made regarding the Sandy Hook controversies.
We can either blindly accept the official story or begin to formulate our own decisions as to what's more plausible. A crazed lone gunman or a contrived plot to bolster national gun control?
Here is my updated list:
GLARING INCONSISTENCIES OF THE NEWTOWN SCHOOL SHOOTING
1. The
'official' story has the shooter using an AR-15 semi-automatic .223 caliber rifle as the main weapon. The Medical Examiner H. Wayne Carver II testified that he found many bullets in the bodies of the victims. A .223 rifle bullet travels at approximately 3,000 ft/sec and kindergartners don't have much body mass to hinder a projectile's penetration, yet he doesn't see many exit wounds? Later news reports from un-named Federal and state authorities say that FOUR HANDGUNS were removed from the school and NO RIFLE WAS USED. There was a Saiga 12 gauge shotgun with one round chambered which was later found in the trunk of the suspects car.
2. Who was the guy the police arrested dressed in camo pants in the woods? And why did they put him in the front of the police car? There was also another man running away from the police into the woods. Who are these guys? The guy in the front seat must have had official credentials but he still ran from the police? One report has it that this guy is a tactical officer from another area but they never explain WHY he was at the scene and why does he run from the police!
3. Newtown, CT is the recruitment headquarters of Anton Lavey's Church of Satan. In several photos the Parker girls, Grace McDonnell and another adult pictured with Vitoria Soto are seen flashing the two-horned finger hand signs.
4. Robbie Parker's interview looked like a staged performance of a smiling actor
'getting into character' before giving an emotional scene. (and he happens to work for a multi-national security firm). Another later photo shows him with a new haircut smirking in a limo at his daughter's funeral.
5. The emotional Jew Gene Rosen's conflicting performances: The unnamed 'bus driver' is sometimes a man and sometimes a woman. Why didn't the bus driver just simply walk the children to the fire station next door rather than leave them with a stranger? One time Gene says he took the kids to the fire station, then he says the parents come to his house to be reunited with their parents.
6. Gene Rosen says he saw the casualty list two days before it's posted. He also happens to be an executive for a Cable TV company on which he created a program called
"Fairy Tale Theater", there's photos of him at FEMA events and many of the "parents" also just happen to have theatrical backgrounds.
7. Where is the video of the shooter approaching the school grounds? New security measures were supposedly installed at the school. Several news reports claim that Adam was buzzed into the school, Lt. Vance claims that he was not voluntarily let into the school.
8. How did the shooter(s) enter the building? No photos of the front door to the building, bullet holes, victims receiving triage or on stretchers? I've seen exactly ONE elderly woman who didn't appear to be severely wounded and ONE adult sized body covered on a stretcher. That's IT!
9. There are MULTIPLE accounts of Sandy Hook Memorial Funds being posted days BEFORE the shooting. OK, maybe there's a legitimate reason for one or possibly two instances but there are about a half a dozen wrong dates posted associated with Sandy Hook victims.
10. Obama's fake tears (wiped away appropriately with his middle finger).
11. 'Sandy Hook' appearing in a screen shot of the latest Batman movie. The prop director for that movie just recently died in a car accident.
12. One of the deceased children, Natalie Barden,
just happened to have previously composed a letter to Obama pleading for more gun control measures and just happened to paint a surreal picture of an owl which was given to the president (owls are prominent in Illuminati symbolism).
13. No (or very few) wounded victims in a mass shooting? Statistically impossible especially if the shooter is an untrained psycho. Where's the video or testimony of the women with the wounded foot?
14. Ambulances and first responders completely blocked in and NONE prepared to give triage in the school parking lot. They were ALL 300 yards away at the firehouse.
15. How could Principal Dawn Hochsprung make comments to the Newtown Bee newspaper describing the masked gunman entering the school after the incident and also be a deceased victim?
"Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows (shots?) – more than she could count – that went "on and on."
17. The Police radio transmissions describe a purple van with the rear window blasted out with several occupants wearing ski masks and one dressed as a nun. The van was reported found abandoned but were prints ever run? Were any of these characters ever apprehended and questioned? One tall nun with large feet at the scene appears to constantly clutch something under her habit.
18. The black Honda car that Adam Lanza supposedly used was not his, nor his deceased mother's but was apparently registered to some known pedophile/drug dealer named Chris Rodia. Did the police confiscate that car and plant it at the elementary school? The debunkers claim that Chris Rodia was pulled over at another part of town (for a parking violation), however, his license plate number matches the car at the elementary school.
19. Do a web search on the Greenburg and Sexton family. A half a dozen or so members of these Jewish families bear a striking resemblance to both victims and the victims grieving families. Crisis Actors? Who can you trust to keep secrets than your own family?
20. There is a photo of James Holmes sitting next to a woman attorney that looks exactly like Jennifer Phelps in the CT shooting scene. Mr. Phelps (who gives an utterly unconvincing video portrayal) also appears to be married to the same woman in the posted Facebook Greenburg photo albums.
21. The emotional Jew Gene Rosen claims that the kids were crying about their dead teacher Miss Soto. But how could these students survive the attack on Ms. Soto's class when no other school victims in her class survived and none were wounded? Possibly they were hidden in the classroom but they don't claim they were. Do you know how difficult it is to get small children to remain silent?
22. Lt. Vance of the Sheriff's Dept. authoritatively declares that
"Anyone on the Internet who dares to post anything regarding the shooting that conflicts with what he spoke through the microphones will be subject to Federal prosecution." Where's our First Amendment rights to free speech?
23. The parents and relatives of the victims were not asked to identify the physical bodies but instead, where only shown pictures of the faces of their loved ones. This is NOT standard procedure for body identification. And not a single parent demanded to see their child's body before burial.
24. Where's the footage of 450-600 students being evacuated from the school? The school was placed on lockdown and several helicopters were circling for hours but not a single frame of footage of a mass evacuation of students? The one shot of a line of students being escorted was stock footage from an safety drill months earlier but is regularly used to show "students being evacuated" from Sandy Hook Elementary School on the day of the shooting.
25. The AR-15 was initially found by the police in the trunk of the car, then the story is changed to finding a shotgun there. While the latest reports have four handguns and no rifle taken from the school. It seems that totalitarian governments may be more worried about facing rifles in the hands of citizenry than handguns.
26. The previous day to the shooting Adam Lanza reportedly gets into an
"altercation" with four school employees but there's no heightened security on the following day. And no one is interviewed as to what the
"altercation" was about. Lt. Vance denies this incident ever occurred though the news report claims that
two official sources supplied the news story. Who would fabricate such a story and why? Most of these kinds of leaked stories come from "un-named state and federal sources" and the media never questions or retracts their mis-information reports and no one is held accountable.
27. Why would the shooter (Adam Lanza?) use a smoke grenade or wear a mask? It would only obstruct his view and he'd have to breathe the smoke as well?
28. Sandy Hook school nurse who worked at the school for 15 years Sally (or Sarah) Cox claims that Nancy Lanza was
"Such a absolutely loving person and a very caring experienced kindergarten teacher, just the type of person you would want with your five year old children." in an interview. Turns out Nancy Lanza was never a teacher at Sandy Hook. I'm not sure if the affluent divorced Mrs. Lanza was ever a teacher at all. She lived in a 6,000 sq. ft. mansion and collected $240,000 in yearly alimony from her wealthy ex-husband Peter Lanza (who may be involved in the LIBOR international bank scandal). Sally Cox tells one female reporter she
"locked eyes with the gunman then hid behind her desk" then later claims to only see the gunman's legs thru a computer access hole. She also claims to have hid with a secretary for almost four hours in a storage closet. How could the police SWAT teams have missed searching that closet when they cleared the school?
29. No one has seen Adam Lanza in 3 years including his brother Ryan, but Adam is found possessing Ryan's identification. Ryan apparently doesn't bother to visit his mother's house for her birthday, Christmas or Thanksgiving? There is one report that Adam officially changed his name to Ryan. Another small detail emerged in the course of the interview, this time about Adam Lanza. Lanza was vegan, according to Hanoman, because he
“didn’t want to hurt animals.” Adam doesn't look or sound like a deranged gunman (more like a patsy).
30. Ryan Lanza was tweeting like mad that he was innocent when he was initially named as the shooter but now he and his father have gone stone silent.
31. Homeland Security and FEMA
just happened to be running safety drills specifically on "Planning for the Needs of Children in Disasters" FEMA L-366 in the Newtown area on Dec. 14, 2012 between 9AM-4PM. Similar scheduled drills also occurred on the same day in the London bombings and a day prior to 9/11 attacks in New York City in 2001. It appears a number of these safety drills have a tendency to. . .
"go live".
32. Emilie Parker does not appear in any of the class photos. It does look like Emilie posing with Pres. Obama. Supposedly, the girl with the president is the middle sister Madilene but oddly she's dressed in Emilie's red dress from the family portrait. Possibly, the 'middle daughter' is actually Emilie and the family photos have been photoshopped as Emily just happens to be positioned to the edge of the pictures. The Parkers live in an affluent town but their girls wear the same hand-me-downs dress over and over again for family portraits and Presidential meetings? Also, in the two publicized photos of the Parker Family the parents look to have aged at least six years between the two pictures but the children only about two years?
33. There is another woman, Cathy Gaubert claims her daughter Lily's picture of her first day of kindergarten that she posted on Flickr was used on several Facebook pages as one of the photos of the supposedly deceased child named Allison Wyatt. Other 'deceased victims' bear striking resemblance to children who were reported missing years ago.
34. The entire town of Newtown received a recent massive multi-million dollar renovation and facelift. There is a hair salon in Newtown called Sandy Hook Hair Co. (The previous tenants lease was denied.) Their company logo is a blood red hand with a small white heart in the center next to this word: "Shh...co" See SandyHookHairCo(dot)com Creepy!
34. Adam Lanza, judging by the photos, looks to be about 130 lbs. soaking wet. Yet, we are to believe he carried four handguns, an AR-15 rifle, (dozens of loaded magazines), smoke grenades, a bulletproof vest, combat boots and wore a mask? Ryan Lanza hasn't seen his little brother for years but Adam somehow had his ID?
35. Ok, let me see if I can this straight. The
'man in the woods' was: An off duty firefighter/tactical squad officer from a neighboring town/PE teacher/scout leader who was a father of a student and was hunting/chopping wood/or there to make gingerbread houses who was briefly detained by police and was named Pete something or Chris Manfredonia and he ".
. . didn't do it"? Did I miss anything?
36. Some sharp-eyed individual found Facebook photo albums of the Greenberg family (who just happen to have connections to powerful NWO types like Max Strong) in which many family members and their cousins bear a striking resemblance to many of the so-called Sandy Hook victims as well as their 'grieving' relatives. (See Leon Greenberg's Facebook page and click on "The Berkshires") They were all posers using aliases in their video interviews.
37. So far, we've seen about a half the victim's families talking to the press. Why are the other victim's families completely silent?
38. Perhaps the most striking aspect of this event is
NOT A SINGLE TEAR was witnessed by anyone from the numerous video interviews of the supposed
'grief-stricken' parents and relatives! They all seem well-rested, no swollen faces or bloodshot eyes or unable to speak cogently because they have been continually mourning. Many appear downright happy!
"Quiet! Crisis Actors on the set!"
39. It’s just a little too convenient that anyone who would’ve seen the shooter died, and we can’t see the video, isn’t it? WHERE IS THE VIDEO EVIDENCE?
40. According to the SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX, the suspected shooter “Adam Lanza” died on
December 13, 2012 which is one day
PRIOR to the shooting event which occurred on December 14.
41. There's helicopter footage of dozens of people walking out of one door of the fire station then walking around the building and entering in another door to give the illusion that there's more people in the fire station. And very few of them appear to be children.
42. Sometimes it's the little things that make you wonder: 50 staff members at the school but only one (or maybe two) 911 calls when supposedly the intercom was broadcasting the initial assault? Everyone's got a high tech phone these days but no posted cell phone videos at the fire station and no firemen heard
"hundreds of gun shots" though neighbor Gene Rosen claims he did?
43.
"EVERYBODY MUST CHECK IN" illuminated flashing street sign behind one of Gene Rosen's interviews in front of the fire station. During a Full Scale Exercise all the crisis operatives must check in before they are deployed to the emergency scene. And notice the two people in the background that abruptly part company once they know the camera is recording them. Many others are seen wearing their official emergency exercise name tags.
44. No photos or interviews with the (heroic?) janitor, Rick Thorne who supposedly locked doors and passed on the warning to various classrooms.
45. Stephen Barton, Aurora CO shooting survivor just happens to live just minutes from Newtown, Connecticut. Stephen Barton is also an outspoken Gun Control advocate who works directly with Mayor Bloomberg of NYC.
46. How convenient that within days they just so happen to have a newly renovated school all ready for the Sandy Hook Elementary students to be moved into. Sandy Hook Elementary School was 56 years old and badly in need of repair.
47. All the cars in the main school parking lot are parked in the same direction and most are black or grey (Govt. fleet cars?).
48. All of these major shootings are occurring in unincorporated townships.
49. No bodies or even bloody footprints. No police evidence markers.
50. Why were there two black sweatshirts outside of Lanza/Rodin car if there was a 'lone gunman"? And a female eyewitness first on the scene says all the car doors were opened. Who closed the doors and why?
51. Within minutes of the first call Police Lt. Paul Vance claims
"Every door, every crack, every crevice of that school" was checked. The entire school was searched." Then the alleged school nurse Sally Cox says she was hiding in a supply closet for almost four hours with a secretary a Ms. Halstead, who is the school secretary. Ms. Halstead is the ex-wife of Bill Halstead, the fire chief, who was at the fire house that day, and mother of a Karin Halstead, who is the EMT chief called to the scene. Why weren't they desperately looking for Ms. Halstead inside the school?
52. EMT's did not follow medical protocol procedures by not extracting the victims and placing them on the various colored coded tarps outside. And why are there no triage equipment pre-positioned on those tarps? Instead, there's folding chairs on one of the tarps!
53. The one surviving witness, a young girl, supposedly who played dead and was
"covered in blood" also conveniently remains unidentified. Her family is reportedly sueing the state for $100 million dollars.
54. An early riser eyewitness going out for breakfast traveling by the fire station reported that there were dozens of cars parked on both sides of the street at the fire station an hour before the shooting had occurred. No wonder the police got there in under three minutes.
55. At 9:35 AM (only three minutes after the 911 call) an officer claims that the shooting has stopped and the school is in lockdown. How is a lockdown possible when some children said the police are telling them to exit the building?
56. Teacher Kaitin Roig claims she locked the children in her class in the bathroom. Have you ever seen a classroom with a bathroom? Aren't the school bathrooms usually down the main hallway?
57. Where is the video of Adam Lanza being denied purchase of weapons at the gun store? Why would Adam even need to buy his own weapons if his mom has so many at home? And there's no record of Nancy Lanza using any of the local firing ranges.
58. Not a single EMT or cop looking shell shocked ...SOMEONE would certainly have lost their cookies after something so horrific, even the most HARDENED veterans would be shocked, but instead, they all are seen idling around the parking lot or waiting for the food catering truck to arrive.
59. Most of the victims families had recently moved to Stepford... uh, I mean Newtown, CT. And even though this is a wealthy neighborhood they all have (pre-designed?) donation web sites up and running within hours of the mass shooting.
60. Bullet holes were supposedly found in the deceased teacher Lauren Gabrielle Rousseau's green car in the parking lot but there was no crime scene tape or markers around her car. And one of the bullet holes already has rust formations? Supposedly, Adam Lanza sprayed hundreds of rounds in under three minutes an none of the other cars were hit?
61. That many police in a town so small, in just 30 minutes? Why didn't they attempt to save any of the kids if they got there in 2 1/2 minutes? They didn't allow any EMT's in the school, and one EMT stated that his boss told them, "
There were no survivors" and to
"Stand down"! Huh? 26 people and one guy wasted precious time by evaluating the vital signs of all 26 souls? I'm sorry but that wouldn't happen! EMT's do not think like that! Why aren't any of the parents questioning why their kids were allowed to die on the school classroom floor without receiving medical assistance?
62. Newtown clerk refuses to issue Sandy Hook victim's death certificates.
63. Though Adam Lanza was an acknowledged computer geek but he doesn't have a Facebook, Twitter, Game Site, public forum or Internet linked accounts and all the adult victims were, likewise, very low profile. Where's Adam's ISP records?
64. Six of the 20 deceased children's last names do not appear on the Newtown, CT white page listings.
65. A 40 year old adult wounded teacher named Natalie Hammond was supposedly shot four times in the arm and leg but there's no blood or bandages visible as her stretcher is placed in the ambulance. There's also no record of her educational credentials. Just a couple of months after the shooting she is shown with full mobility dropping the cerimonial puck at a Bruins hockey game.
66. Chief Medical Examiner, Dr. Wayne Carver had previously threatened to quit his job unless Bill 1054 was passed. This bill specifically gives the ME the power to keep all pediatric homicide autopsy results strictly confidential.
67. Why does Coroner Carver say
"He hopes the people of Newtown don't have it all crash on their heads later."? And why are the police officers smirking or nodding their heads as he speaks?
68. Also notice the police momentary stunned reaction as Carver says "
You can control a situation depending on your photographers and I have VERY GOOD PHOTOGRAPHERS". Did he stray from the script and say something forbidden?
69. All of the children's funerals were closed caskets affairs, except for one report that the sole Jewish victim, Noah Pozner's body was visible. After delivering an emotion-less eulogy, his mother, Veronique, supposedly escorted the governor to view the open casket, even though Noah's (
dismembered?) body was shot 6 million, uh. . . I mean eleven times at close range with a high powered rifle.
70. Noah was not pictured in any of the Pozner family group photos shown to the media or depicted with his supposed twin sister. Neither was Noah pictured on his mother's Internet dating profile with her other children. Noah also bears no resemblance to the rest of the Pozner children but he strangely looks exactly like one of the aforementioned Greenberg's kids.
71. Anderson Cooper was exposed as briefly working as a CIA operative in college and is caught using a green screen interview with Veronique Pozner supposedly held live outside of a memorial service. Cooper's nose disappears briefly in one frame then magically reappears. Visual artifacts such as these are common when green screen footage is used. Cooper is also one of the chief indignant media 'debunkers' ridiculing those that claim that Sandy Hook event was a hoax.
72. Sandy Hook Elementary School sign is placed 300 yards from the school grounds up the street near the fire station?
73. CT has some of the most severe gun control laws in the country. AR-15 rifles are already illegal there so how could Nancy Lanza be in possession of this weapon? Gun bans don't appear to be very effective.
74. One woman says she received a text message from CBS informing her about a shooting occurring at her child's school. Since when do news organizations have access to confidential school records?
75. Aerial photography above the fire station shows a female reporter with a camera being harassed for taking pictures by several individuals. One man appears to be especially agitated in his confrontation with the reporter to the point of giving her the finger. A policeman eventually intervenes and escorts her to the periphery. Why are they so concerned with outsiders taking photographs?
76. Watch the stunned, shocked expression on Jim Willtsie's face (who is Victoria Soto's cousin and a police detective) as the reporter tells him, "None of this makes any sense!" It's priceless.
77. Let's play 'The Name Game':
Willow Bay, Senior Editor of The Huffington Post, is a television journalist and author. She is also a special correspondent for
Bloomberg Television writes a book about talking to your kids in tough times.
Madeleine F Hsu (pronounced as "you"), age 6 F You!
We've been had.
78. News correspondent Mike Lupica reports that an
"anonymous law enforcement veteran" reported finding a 7 foot long, 4 feet long spreadsheet printout of names, body counts and weapons from previous mass murders (get this)
IN 9 POINT FONT reportedly found in the Lanza home. So, Adam Lanza was reportedly crafty enough to utterly destroy his computer hard drive of all evidence but neglects to burn an enormously huge spreadsheet printout of mass murder statistics in ridiculously small font size?
79. In one aerial shot a man is seen walking through the parking lot past the firetruck holding what looks like a child-sized dummy.
80. Early reports claimed that someone related to the Lanza was killed in New Jersey. This was never confirmed or investigated.