Saved by God, through Faith.
Faith is not the Savior, unless Faith died on the Cross for you.
Did it?
If it did, then you're the only one.
You probably believe you are, Michiah-Imla.
Ive no doubt.
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Saved by God, through Faith.
Faith is not the Savior, unless Faith died on the Cross for you.
Did it?
If it did, then you're the only one.
You probably believe you are, Michiah-Imla.
Ive no doubt.
Michiah-Imla
Well-Known Member
“Behold then the kindness, and the severity of God; on those having fallen, severity; but on you, kindness, if you continue in the kindness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.” (Romans 11:22)
“If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words…” (1 Timothy 6:3-4)
robert derrick
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I'm no longer interested in the endless petty debates of those who have another faith than that of Jesus, and don't even believe we can live righteously and walk as He walked on earth.
The hearts not believing unto righteousness, are just playing doctrine-games to justify their unbelief.
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
repeat after me inclusivism is a lie from satan .
You WATCH this video . THEY LIE and no lamb of GOD will follow their lie .
robert derrick
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God only accepts faith in Christ to give to the person of faith, "The Gift of Salvation".
"Faith is counted (By God) as "righteousness', and the believer is "justified BY faith", without works, or deeds of the law.
You are trying to work your way around the Cross according to hundreds of your posts and most of your Threads.
If you die trying to force God to accept your self righteousness... your works and your commandment keeping.., then its going to be a crash landing on the other side of your departure from your body, Robert.
See, you are the "error of Cain", and you need to repent.
robert derrick
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Faith alone, that does not even believe unto righteousness, is not the faith of Jesus.
Those saying it is not even possible to do righteousness at all times, and walk as Jesus walked, are declaring their own unbelief.
Unless we at least first believe it is possible to live righteously, then of course, we'll never do it.
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
And so we see how all faith alone's little doctrinal feints, pokes, and jabs are rendered meaningless by the one simple Scripture of salvation?
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
We that believe unto righteousness of Jesus Christ, no longer have to bother with digging into their weeds, to correct them.
So refreshing. Like a cool drink of clear water with the Lord Jesus.
God only accepts faith to apply His Salvation through Grace
"Grace through Faith"
"Justification BY faith".
mailmandan
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Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Romans 5:1 - Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
Romans 4:5 - But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works.
Romans 10:8 - But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
That's not hard to understand. It's just hard for self promoters/false teachers/works-salvationists to ACCEPT.
mailmandan
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The Bible clearly states in many passages of scripture that we are saved through belief/faith "apart from additions or modifications." (John 1:12; 3:15,16,18,36; 6:29,40,47; 11:25,26; Acts 10:43; 13:39; 15:9; 16:31; 26:18; Romans 1:16; 3:24-28; 4:5; 5:1; 10:4; 1 Corinthians 1:21; Galatians 2:16; 3:7-9, 26; Ephesians 2:8; 2 Timothy 3:15; Philippians 3:9; 1 John 5:13 etc..).
Now we don't need to "add" the word "alone" next to "belief/faith" in each of these passages of scripture in order to figure out that the words, "belief/faith" stand alone in connection with receiving eternal life/salvation. Do these many passages of scripture say belief/faith "plus something else?" Plus works? NO. So then it's faith (rightly understood) IN CHRIST ALONE.
Yes.
So many are trying to work their way to heaven because they have not understood the finished work of Jesus on the Cross that is "the Gift of Salvation" that God gives to us through our faith.
Jesus said "it is Finished", 2000 yrs ago and He would know.
robert derrick
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Unto righteousness. Unbelief is not believing we can live righteously as Jesus by grace.
OSAS faith is faith alone. Jesus' faith is faith unto righteousness only.
Once you understand WHO is God's righteousness, you'll then understand WNY you have to believe unto "Him", who is Righteousness......by FAITH.
Righteousness is not what you can do, as "all have sinned", and that means you and your cult, Robert.
So, what is left? How to Get the Righteousness that we must have, so that God can have us?
God has to give it to us through Christ.
This is why God came down here to DIE on the CROSS.
This is "the Gift of Righteousness" and the "Gift of Salvation" that God offers as .... John 3:15-16.
Jesus is Salvation, because He is The Righteousness of God that we have to have INSIDE US.
= Born again.
Welcome To : Salvation
Its a "Gift".
robert derrick
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Blessed are they that keep judgment, and he that doeth righteousness at all times.
If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
Those who believe not in doing righteousness, are not the righteous believers.
They are the unrighteous unbelievers, still doing unrighteousness.
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever not doing righteousness is not of God.
Simple.
"Born of HIM">........ = "born again".
Jesus said...>"you must be born again".
There is the proof you have God's "Gift of Righteousness'.
"born again" is the only PROOF.
robert derrick
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If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
And the proof of being born again is doing His righteousness as He is righteous.
Them not believing it is even possible to do so, are manifestly born of another faith and christ, than that of Jesus.
If a man say he cannot do righteously as He is righteous, he declares his unbelief.
Doing "righteousness" is not about doing works, keeping commandments or law.
See Jesus IS Righteousness Apart from works, commandments, water baptism, or law.
So, to do "HIS Righteousness" has nothing to do with works, commandments, water baptism, or law.
Try to realize that when a person receives the "Gift of Righteousness", this is not to receive commandment keeping, water baptism, works, communion, law, or a 3D Photo of Moses.
Try to understand that before the WORD came here as God manifested in the flesh, He was already RIGHTEOUSNESS.
He didnt earn it after He was born, He already WAS RIGHTEOUSNESS, in the womb and in the manger.
robert derrick
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A new one. Now doing is not doing.
I.e. back to faith only 'righteousness'.
Incredible. Doing righteousness has nothing to do with doing righteous works.
The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works.
For all this I considered in my heart even to declare all this, that the righteous, and the wise, and their works, are in the hand of God.
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
The question is with all this degraded sophistry, why do you people still say it's not possible to 'do' righteousness at all times?
I'm afraid you've reduced yourself to a state of unreality, that befits someone who thinks they are already resurrected from the dead, living in heaven, and have inherited the kingdom of God. All while still having mortal flesh and blood on earth.
Notice, I do not say you are in your mortal body, because God forbid I should not believe in your resurrected departure into heaven.
But, unless you are typing and posting from heaven with spirit-only fingers, then at least your mortal body is still down here on earth.
You see, I knew the old endless debate of faith alone vs faith by works was ended by the simple fact, that the faith of Jesus is believing unto righteousness.
I really didn't think there would be someone so past reasoning, that you would actually try to argue doing righteousness has nothing to do with doing the word and and keeping His commandments and doing good on earth.
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.
You are actually trying to say doing is not really doing, but is only believing alone.
And of course, that is what you 'do' really believe, that your believing is really 'doing' something. The only thing you are doing here, is showing how completely empty your faith is of doing anything real on earth.
Nevertheless, you still will not say it is possible to do righteousness at all times, even as Jesus. Why not? Because your fellow OSAS hounds will begin to howl and to snarl and turn on you too.
The faith of Jesus is only that which believes unto righteousness, that we can do righteously and walk as He walked on earth.
He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
Its a "new one" to you.
See, you are up to your neck in legalism, so, when you hear that Jesus is Righteousness and not your works, then all your fuses blow.
Its like this Robert.
The only Righteousness that God accepts, is HIS OWN.....and that is not you trying to do works.
Your works are not God's Righteousness.
Not ever.
