Seal of God vs the Mark of the Beast

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

n2thelight

Well-Known Member
Dec 24, 2006
4,052
787
113
60
Atlanta,Ga
There is no rapture ,ALL living at this time will have either or,ie,the seal or the mark .That's the difference in being a whore of satans or a Virgin of Christ.

Revelation 7:1 "And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree."

This is what we must know before the "Day of the Lord". This prophecy has to do with events on the earth, and not in heaven.

These "four winds" are the "four spirits". These four winds are what marks the end of this earth age. They are four winds that come from all directions and focus on one point. Thus it will be "by nature and natural causes" the end will come to pass, in a spiritual sense. This is also discussed in Ezekiel 37, and Daniel 7.

Revelation 7:2 "And I saw another angel ascending from the east [sun rising], having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea."

The angel from the east is the angel from God. You have heard of the Seal, or the "Mark of the Beast"; well, this angel is bringing the seal, or "mark of God." This seal from the angel is "Knowledge". It is sealed, or stored in your mind, which is in your forehead. No physical part of this earth, or oceans will be hurt.

The subject here is the sealing of God's elect; placing knowledge of everything that is to happen in the minds of God's elect and all those overcomers, so there will be no mystery in these events to them. When we know exactly what is to take place, Satan will not be inviting; for upon his arrival, we will know him for the cheap imitation he is, in relation to our Lord Jesus Christ.

Revelation 7:3 "Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads."

Gonna stop here for now,with a question.Why would Gods people need to be sealed if they were to be raptured?
 

Windmillcharge

Well-Known Member
Dec 21, 2017
2,934
1,823
113
68
London
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom
Basic problem with prophercy.

It is ONLY with hindsight that it is recognised.

Why do Gods people need to be sealed?

basic christianity. We are all sealed with the Holy Spirit. It has nothing to do with Jesus's return etc and everything to do with God identifing his people.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Naomi25

n2thelight

Well-Known Member
Dec 24, 2006
4,052
787
113
60
Atlanta,Ga
Basic problem with prophercy.

It is ONLY with hindsight that it is recognised.

Why do Gods people need to be sealed?

basic christianity. We are all sealed with the Holy Spirit. It has nothing to do with Jesus's return etc and everything to do with God identifing his people.

No we are not all sealed.Only those sealed will not turn into a whore,ie ,those not deceived,only Christians can be deceived so that should tell you something.Those who are sealed will help the rest come out of her(babylon)

Has everything to do with His return,as you must be sealed because of the fact that satan comes first pretending to be Christ,those who were not sealed before this event will believe the lie.

The elect,those sealed are those whom the Holy Spirit shall speak through.

Revelation 18:4 "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."

This is a warning direct from God through this mighty angel. "You come out of her, My people, that ye be not partakers of her sins."

The plagues will follow after this warning, and if you are with her, you will receive the plagues also, for God is warning you; and they will come.

Revelation 18:5 "For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities."

The tower of the sins in this end generation, will be worse that the tower of Babel of Genesis 11, and God is about to destroy her, not scatter it. The tower of Babel was built also to draw the entire world together in one mind. Through that ancient tower, man tried to reach God, and be as God was, they thought. Today the tower now forming called the city of Babel will also be of one mind, and the singleness of this one mind is bringing about confusion. The sins of the people, and their hardness of heart are reaching into heaven, and God will remember every last one of them.

The below is how most will come out of her.

Mark 13:9 "But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony against them."

These places are the synagogues of Satan, those religious places where people gather to practice their religious traditions. You will be drilled thoroughly for the sake of converting you to the ways of the false christ. Everything that they do to you will be for the sake of Christ's Word, and your position that you take to defend His Word. Thus the fith seal is you being used as a testimony against these religious rulers and leaders. Your testimony is against those that claim to be of the true Christ, when in fact they are teaching the doctrines of Satan, that will lead people to follow him.

Mark 13:10 "And the gospel must first be published among all nations."

This is not happening today, but at a time in the near future when trial are going forth, and the elect is being singled out, and then the Holy Spirit of God will be speaking through His elect and fingering Satan out to be the false messiah.

Mark 13:11 "But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost [Spirit]."

When this time comes into being in the very near future, it will not be the elect of God that does the speaking, but the Holy Spirit speaking in and through the mouths of His elect. Every one of these individuals will be delivered before these false councils before the final day of this earth age. This is why Peter would say to the people in Acts 2, on Pentecost day; "This is that which was spoken of by Joel the Prophet."

This is the next time true tongues shall be spoken.

If we were all sealed it wouldn't be a reason to seal us!!!
 

n2thelight

Well-Known Member
Dec 24, 2006
4,052
787
113
60
Atlanta,Ga
II Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion [send them a working of error], that they should a lie;"

This can only be talking about Christians as the rest of the world already believes the lie.
 

n2thelight

Well-Known Member
Dec 24, 2006
4,052
787
113
60
Atlanta,Ga
Christians will follow satan deceptively

Revelation 13:13 "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men."

Satan will snap his fingers and lightning will come down from heaven. Satan will bring miracles, and supernatural wonders with him, and these wonders are given by God to perform the test the people of the world.

Revelation 13:14 "And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles [signs] which he had power [it was given him] to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live."

This is the whole object for the great tribulation. "DECEPTION"! Satan is going to make an image of this "one world system" [religious beast] and breath life into system. Their will be something symbolic created within the system that will cause the whole world to bow. This reminds me of the "image" created in Babylon's "one world government" under king Nebuchadnezzar, in Daniel 3. At that time there were only three that would not bow to the image.

satan cannot force anyone to take a mark, they will worship him(those not sealed)because they will think is is Christ.You must know this truth before this time,that's how one gets sealed.
 

n2thelight

Well-Known Member
Dec 24, 2006
4,052
787
113
60
Atlanta,Ga
Do you'll really think the mark is some tat ,to take the mark is to do the work of satan and many will because they won't know any better and it's for their own good as to do his work knowing you are will condemn you
 

Naomi25

Well-Known Member
Aug 10, 2016
3,199
1,801
113
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
There is no rapture ,ALL living at this time will have either or,ie,the seal or the mark .That's the difference in being a whore of satans or a Virgin of Christ.

Revelation 7:1 "And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree."

This is what we must know before the "Day of the Lord". This prophecy has to do with events on the earth, and not in heaven.

These "four winds" are the "four spirits". These four winds are what marks the end of this earth age. They are four winds that come from all directions and focus on one point. Thus it will be "by nature and natural causes" the end will come to pass, in a spiritual sense. This is also discussed in Ezekiel 37, and Daniel 7.

Revelation 7:2 "And I saw another angel ascending from the east [sun rising], having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea."

The angel from the east is the angel from God. You have heard of the Seal, or the "Mark of the Beast"; well, this angel is bringing the seal, or "mark of God." This seal from the angel is "Knowledge". It is sealed, or stored in your mind, which is in your forehead. No physical part of this earth, or oceans will be hurt.

The subject here is the sealing of God's elect; placing knowledge of everything that is to happen in the minds of God's elect and all those overcomers, so there will be no mystery in these events to them. When we know exactly what is to take place, Satan will not be inviting; for upon his arrival, we will know him for the cheap imitation he is, in relation to our Lord Jesus Christ.

Revelation 7:3 "Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads."

Gonna stop here for now,with a question.Why would Gods people need to be sealed if they were to be raptured?

Well, I think you have started with an incorrect premise and gone on with another one.
Firstly, there most certianly IS a Rapture. Unless you blatantly ignore all the verses that speak of Christians being gathered together "in the air" to meet Christ at his coming, the Rapture is a reality. It's WHEN that's the big question.
As for 'being sealed', @Windmillcharge was correct, this is a direct reference to when a Christian is sealed with the Holy Spirit:

and who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee. -2 Corinthians 1:22

In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, -Ephesians 1:13

And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. -Ephesians 4:30
 

Windmillcharge

Well-Known Member
Dec 21, 2017
2,934
1,823
113
68
London
Faith
Christian
Country
United Kingdom
No we are not all sealed.Only those sealed will not turn into a whore,ie ,those not deceived,only Christians can be deceived so that should tell you something.Those who are sealed will help the rest come out of her(babylon)

Has everything to do with His return,as you must be sealed because of the fact that satan comes first pretending to be Christ,those who were not sealed before this event will believe the lie.

The elect,those sealed are those whom the Holy Spirit shall speak through.

Revelation 18:4 "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."

This is a warning direct from God through this mighty angel. "You come out of her, My people, that ye be not partakers of her sins."

The plagues will follow after this warning, and if you are with her, you will receive the plagues also, for God is warning you; and they will come.

Revelation 18:5 "For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities."

The tower of the sins in this end generation, will be worse that the tower of Babel of Genesis 11, and God is about to destroy her, not scatter it. The tower of Babel was built also to draw the entire world together in one mind. Through that ancient tower, man tried to reach God, and be as God was, they thought. Today the tower now forming called the city of Babel will also be of one mind, and the singleness of this one mind is bringing about confusion. The sins of the people, and their hardness of heart are reaching into heaven, and God will remember every last one of them.

The below is how most will come out of her.

Mark 13:9 "But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony against them."

These places are the synagogues of Satan, those religious places where people gather to practice their religious traditions. You will be drilled thoroughly for the sake of converting you to the ways of the false christ. Everything that they do to you will be for the sake of Christ's Word, and your position that you take to defend His Word. Thus the fith seal is you being used as a testimony against these religious rulers and leaders. Your testimony is against those that claim to be of the true Christ, when in fact they are teaching the doctrines of Satan, that will lead people to follow him.

Mark 13:10 "And the gospel must first be published among all nations."

This is not happening today, but at a time in the near future when trial are going forth, and the elect is being singled out, and then the Holy Spirit of God will be speaking through His elect and fingering Satan out to be the false messiah.

Mark 13:11 "But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost [Spirit]."

When this time comes into being in the very near future, it will not be the elect of God that does the speaking, but the Holy Spirit speaking in and through the mouths of His elect. Every one of these individuals will be delivered before these false councils before the final day of this earth age. This is why Peter would say to the people in Acts 2, on Pentecost day; "This is that which was spoken of by Joel the Prophet."

This is the next time true tongues shall be spoken.

If we were all sealed it wouldn't be a reason to seal us!!!


As I said basic Christianity as
Eph 1:11 In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, 12 in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory. 13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.

Shows, we are All sealed if we are Christian.