GINOLJC, to all. in respond to your post #28, you said,
Yes, there is only one first (in a particular category), but there can be many firsts if there are many categories, YHWH is the first and last uncreated being. Yeshua is the first and last being to ever be directly begotten in a woman’s womb by YHWH.
I see three ERRORS on your part in just this one passage of respond
#1. "
one first in a particular category". well there is no one else in the God category, scripture, Colossians 2:9 "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the
Godhead bodily". so the Lord Jesus is in the God category, which make your statement false.
#2. "
but there can be many firsts if there are many categories". the Godhead is only one category, and everything else is a creation of his. and the Lord Jesus is clearly in this ONLY ONE category. so again your Statement is false.
#3. "
YHWH is the first and last uncreated being. Yeshua is the first and last being to ever be directly begotten in a woman’s womb by YHWH". again another false statement, being a two fold ERROR.
A. the use of the word "
Being". understand a being is the state or fact of existing; existence, meaning self sustaining. and we as "CREATURES" have our
being in him/the Spirit, meaning we exist because of him. supportive scripture, Acts 17:28 "For
in him we live, and move, and have
our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring". see, only the Spirit/God is the only being, everything else, including us are his creation. he sustain us, not we him.
B. "
Yeshua is the first and last being to ever be directly begotten in a woman’s womb by YHWH". again another False statement. Yeshua/Jesus is never begotten, he have no biological mother, or father. only his BODY (that he came in) was begotten in the woman's womb, and it was by the HOLY GHOST. spirits are not begotten, they are given by God/the Holy Spirit who is Father of us all, YES, the Holy Spirit. supportive scripture. Isaiah 42:5 "Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it;
he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and
spirit to them that walk therein". understand this, a woman can only produce flesh and blood, which a spirit is not. with a spirit there is nothing to push out, a spirit is immaterial, and it have to be GIVEN by the Spirit. and to back this up, there is a difference between a Child/flesh and blood and the Son/ spirit. scripture, Isaiah 9:6a "For unto us
a child is born, unto us
a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,
The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace".
understand, a child/flesh and blood the OUTWARD MAN is Born. but the Son/spirit the IN-WARD MAN is "given", not born. see the difference now. God/Yeshua has no mommy, or daddy, biologically speaking. then you said,
When YHWH said, “ I, even I, am YHWH; and beside me there is no savior”, there were other saviours (
2 Kings 13:5;
Nehemiah 9:27). He would also send saviours in the future other than Yeshua (
Obadiah 1:21). Was YHWH wrong to say there is no other savior? Of course not. Man’s interpretation is wrong. What YHWH meant was that He is the ultimate Saviour and no other. However, He saves through others that He sends as saviours (including Yeshua).
this is a classic Unitarian ERROR and you have made it also. these other saviours was human saviours that saved men from PHYSICAL BONDAGE. Israel sinned over and over, and God would send human saviour to relieved them of their
Physical Captors. when the root of the problem was sin (a spiritual condition). understand, no man/human can fight a spirit and deliver one from SPIRITUAL BONDAGE. this is why the messiah was rejected. they was looking for those same human physical saviours you mention by scripture to save then from the Romans, physically. when in fact messiah came to make/Deliver them FREE from spiritual bondage. it takes a Spirit to deliver one Spiritually from spiritual bondage. just as now, we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against wickedness in high places. see, no mere human, flesh and blood man, can fight a spirit. they can only fight other flesh and blood humans. this is the failing of the Unitarian doctrine, and yours. YOU CAN'T SEND A MAN TO DO GOD JOB...
second, he, YESHUA is the only saviour. and he (the one whom you calls YHWH) saves NOT, again, NOT through others. listen to the record, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold:
therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me". and his "
OWN" arm is Yeshua, (God shared in Flesh) see Isaiah chapter 53. it was your YHWH the LORD, who Came in flesh to save mandkind.
then you tried to follow up with some Revelation scriptures. as well in Post #29 above. let's take a test and eliminate this notion that Yeshua is not the LORD. and Let's see exactly who Yeshua is and who is coming.
Question, "The letters to the Seven Churches... who was addressing them? Yeshua right. well if One examine the ending of each letter one will find this, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what
the Spirit saith unto the churches". see, Yeshua is the LORD, or the one whom you calls YHWH.
It's the Spirit, the HOLY SPIRIT who is speaking to the Churches. Yeshua is the Holy Spirit, the true and ONLY LIVING God.
I suggest you read your bible more with the Holy Ghost and get a better understanding. no put down, but only a helpful suggestion.
PCY.