""...., because no one can cleanse themselves of sin by their own efforts.....""
YES, that is done only by trusting in the death, burial, resurrection of Christ = Col 2:13 ...having forgiven you all trespasses;
Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?
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YES, that is done only by trusting in the death, burial, resurrection of Christ = Col 2:13 ...having forgiven you all trespasses;
That's 3 questions.
Judge yourself
Matt 11:28 Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Matt 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
Matt 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
1Joh 5:1 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.
1Joh 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments.
1Joh 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.
1Joh 5:4 For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world— our faith.
1Joh 5:5 Who is it that overcomes the world except the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?
versus :
1Petr 4:17 For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?
1Petr 4:18 And “If the righteous is scarcely saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?”
Filipp 2:12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling,
Didn't the people to whom Jesus once said "your sins are forgiven" die? Why do you think they died?
Jesus' forgiveness helps our sins not be taken into account when it comes to being judged. A person who is forgiven for his past sins and sins again...what do you think happens to him?
John 5:5 But one man was there who had been sick for 38 years. 6 Seeing this man lying there and being aware that he had already been sick for a long time, Jesus said to him: “Do you want to get well?” 7 The sick man answered him: “Sir, I do not have anyone to put me into the pool when the water is stirred up, but while I am on my way, another steps down ahead of me.” 8 Jesus said to him: "Get up! Pick up your mat and walk." 9 And the man immediately got well, and he picked up his mat and began to walk. That day was the Sabbath. 10 So the Jews began to say to the cured man: “It is the Sabbath, and it is not lawful for you to carry the mat.” 11 But he answered them: “The same one who made me well said to me, ‘Pick up your mat and walk.’” 12 They asked him: “Who is the man who told you, ‘Pick it up and walk’?” 13 But the healed man did not know who he was, for Jesus had slipped away into the crowd that was there. 14 After this Jesus found him in the temple and said to him: "See, you have become well. Do not sin anymore, so that something worse does not happen to you." 15 The man went away and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well.
Jesus' forgiveness helps our sins not be taken into account when it comes to being judged. A person who is forgiven for his past sins and sins again...what do you think happens to him?
John 5:5 But one man was there who had been sick for 38 years. 6 Seeing this man lying there and being aware that he had already been sick for a long time, Jesus said to him: “Do you want to get well?” 7 The sick man answered him: “Sir, I do not have anyone to put me into the pool when the water is stirred up, but while I am on my way, another steps down ahead of me.” 8 Jesus said to him: "Get up! Pick up your mat and walk." 9 And the man immediately got well, and he picked up his mat and began to walk. That day was the Sabbath. 10 So the Jews began to say to the cured man: “It is the Sabbath, and it is not lawful for you to carry the mat.” 11 But he answered them: “The same one who made me well said to me, ‘Pick up your mat and walk.’” 12 They asked him: “Who is the man who told you, ‘Pick it up and walk’?” 13 But the healed man did not know who he was, for Jesus had slipped away into the crowd that was there. 14 After this Jesus found him in the temple and said to him: "See, you have become well. Do not sin anymore, so that something worse does not happen to you." 15 The man went away and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well.
Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
As Christ told the young rich ruler sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor,
I haven't done that, what about you ?
If not, why not since it is a requirement to enter eternal life
Impossible for men. With God all things are possible.
Human perfection will only be possible under the conditions that God himself has established:
1) human flesh will cease to be corrupt due to the imperfection inherited from our first parents; this will only be possible through the work of Jesus’ heavenly priesthood before his Father and God in heaven, together with the associate priests who will be with him and who will reign over the earth for a thousand years.
2) the earthly environment will change completely: wickedness will be eliminated from the entire planet, and no one will have to be affected by wicked people or their actions.
3) all humanity will be taught by God. Where there is knowledge, there is wisdom; where there is wisdom, the results are better.
Today, that is impossible:
Rom. 8:20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but through the one who subjected it, on the basis of hope 21 that the creation itself will also be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22 For we know that all creation keeps on groaning together and being in pain together until now. 23 Not only that, but we ourselves also who have the firstfruits, namely, the spirit, yes, we ourselves groan within ourselves while we are earnestly waiting for adoption as sons, the release from our bodies by ransom. 24 For we were saved in this hope; but hope that is seen is not hope, for when a man sees a thing, does he hope for it? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we keep eagerly waiting for it with endurance.
1) human flesh will cease to be corrupt due to the imperfection inherited from our first parents; this will only be possible through the work of Jesus’ heavenly priesthood before his Father and God in heaven, together with the associate priests who will be with him and who will reign over the earth for a thousand years.
2) the earthly environment will change completely: wickedness will be eliminated from the entire planet, and no one will have to be affected by wicked people or their actions.
3) all humanity will be taught by God. Where there is knowledge, there is wisdom; where there is wisdom, the results are better.
Today, that is impossible:
Rom. 8:20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but through the one who subjected it, on the basis of hope 21 that the creation itself will also be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22 For we know that all creation keeps on groaning together and being in pain together until now. 23 Not only that, but we ourselves also who have the firstfruits, namely, the spirit, yes, we ourselves groan within ourselves while we are earnestly waiting for adoption as sons, the release from our bodies by ransom. 24 For we were saved in this hope; but hope that is seen is not hope, for when a man sees a thing, does he hope for it? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we keep eagerly waiting for it with endurance.
I think a lot of churches are against any teaching on sinless perfection because they prefer to get as many tithing members committed as possible who don't come close to that.
I'm no authority on the topic but I think the issue of sin is always about today and right now. If we say sincerely in our heart that we will serve God now without the intention of sinning again, I think that is the key. I don't worry about what Ill do the rest of my life. I worry about today. If I sin, I repent and get back up and go back to serving God without intending to sin again. But the goal is to not sin and go on to perfection.
One more thing I've noticed. We tend to make the goal post super high so there's no practical way to reach it.
It is a good thing to resolve to stay as far away from sin as possible. That undoubtedly pleases God, and He blesses us for those efforts.
However, the sin that causes human beings to die "naturally" is not merely the specific act—the occasional deed that violates biblical principles and displeases God... Human sin is a condition of the fallen flesh. It cannot be eliminated by human effort, nor under present conditions.
However, the sin that causes human beings to die "naturally" is not merely the specific act—the occasional deed that violates biblical principles and displeases God... Human sin is a condition of the fallen flesh. It cannot be eliminated by human effort, nor under present conditions.
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