I'm willing to take one at a time...
John 15:1-6 is very clear indeed.
Here's the whole scripture:
1“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser.
2“Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit.
3“You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.
4“Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither canyou unless you abide in Me.
5“I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing.
6“If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned.
1. Jesus is THE VINE. God Father is the vine dresser.
2. Every branch that DOES NOT BEAR FRUIT...God Father takes away. God cuts the dead branch that does not bear fruit from the Vine.
IF, instead, the vine DOES bear fruit,,,,God Father prunes the vine so that it will produce even more fruit. IOW, God gives us more strength and grace to do His will.
3. We are "clean" because Jesus has spoken the word to us. God Father has already pruned us believers...we are clean.
4. A branch, us, cannot bear fruit if it is not attached to the vine...Jesus.
5. Jesus is the vine, we are the branches....if we are not attached to HIM,,,the vine, we can do nothing.
6. If anyone DOES NOT ABIDE in Him, that person is thrown away like a branch that dries up, the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire and burned.
So do you think the above is about fruit bearing....
or staying saved?
What happens to the branches that DO NOT BEAR FRUIT?
We need to come to scripture with a fresh mind and read it and grasp what Jesus is trying to tell us.