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Again there's a difference between accepting their behavior and accepting them. Hate the sin but LOVE the sinner!!! Is it really all that difficult to understand!?
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Yes point being that even though we should still try and witness to these people God gave them just as much free will as He gave us.
Again there's a difference between accepting their behavior and accepting them. Hate the sin but LOVE the sinner!!! Is it really all that difficult to understand!?
Everything is a choice.
What to do, what to say, what to think, what to pray, what to wear, what to drink, what to drive, where to go, who to follow, what to believe, what you will do next.
Its all never ending choices, and we are accountable for the choices we make.
People have this idea that God sends them to hell....that He chooses this.....but that is not so.
All God does is allow you ... your choice.
Hell or Heaven, is just a final destination, and a person chooses to go to one or the other by not choosing Jesus, or by being born again., which is to BELIEVE and God gives you the new birth.
God honors this choice, after you die.
There is a "Lamb's book of Life"...... and we are in it, until we are not.
To reject Christ and never be born again, and DIE, takes your name OUT of the Book.
We must also understand that homosexuals/trans are hurting people. Themselves. It is a terrible bondage and they are the main victims. To be ok with their lifestyle would be like being ok with someone you love locked up in a gulag.
I have known people that were gay and transgender before yes but that's all that I'm going to say about it as I don't want to it to get too personal. Just remember what I've posted above though it is true that there are people like this who want to come to Jesus but are afraid that they can't because of their struggle and I really don't think that we should see these kinds of people any differently than other sinners.
and as long as they are not allowed to adopt....
I sort of agree what you're saying but let's say a homosexual/trans person wants to accept Christ? Are you saying because of their sin they won't be accepted into the church? Cause that contradicts everything the Bible teaches as Jesus doesn't turn anybody away who wants to come to Him,.. no matter what their sin.
Again I repeat,.. I am NOT okay with their lifestyle, and I also wouldn't say that they are hurting themselves,... I would probably say that they are hurting themselves in the sense that they are having issues with themselves and it's these kinds of people that need love the most through help by prayer, counseling, etc. At least with trans people I'm not sure about homosexuals.
I agree with everything you said except for this comment. What the heck does this have to do with LGTBQ? It doesn't matter who adopts a child if that child is going to receive love and care.
Hello April, I know you are not ok with their lifestyle. It just seems there is some naevity concerning their state being harmful
Well let me put it differently.
Their homo/trans problem is hurting them.
It is a mental illness they need deliverance from. Christians who act like they aren't hurting anyone aren't doing them any favors.
April, I admire your compassion but a child adopted by a homo couple will suffer more mental instability. It is not a good situation for the child to be brought up in.
I sort of agree what you're saying but let's say a homosexual/trans person wants to accept Christ? Are you saying because of their sin they won't be accepted into the church? Cause that contradicts everything the Bible teaches as Jesus doesn't turn anybody away who wants to come to Him,.. no matter what their sin.
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Well, the "church" is you and me.
Its not the building...Its the body of believers who make up the body of Christ.
Each of us is the Church......We are ALL together, The Body of Christ.
We all , each of us, make up the "body".
We, the born again, are individually "The Temple of the Holy Spirit", but that Temple is ALL the Born again...Its the Body, its the Church, universal.
So, what im saying is.....all are welcome in God's house who find the WAY to get there.
Jesus is the Way. John 14:6
If a homosexual said to me......."do i have to stop my sexual lifestyle before God will save me"?
I would tell them........All you have to do is truly take Christ into your heart and God will take you into His.
Billy Graham, once, was asked...>"Pastor Graham, you have a lot of children....what if one day one of them came to you and said....>"Daddy im Gay".
Billy Graham, didnt even hesitate..>He said......"well then, id just love that one more"...
So, God will just love that one, the same as the rest. = ETERNALLY.
If a homosexual is born again, then that person now belongs to God.
They are "made righteous".
How cultural bias or religious bias feels about that, has no bearing on the fact that they are now and forever God's Child, made so by God Himself.
Can they continue to exist as perverted sexuality and be allowed to be a part of a Local Church Group?
Not if that church is in line with New Testament truth.... but, that is not the concern....the concern is for them to be delivered now from their spiritual issue, this perverted sexuality, that is a mental stronghold that plays itself out as a sexual lifestyle.
We must also understand that homosexuals/trans are hurting people. Themselves. It is a terrible bondage and they are the main victims. To be ok with their lifestyle would be like being ok with someone you love locked up in a gulag.
I agree with everything you said except for this comment. What the heck does this have to do with LGTBQ? It doesn't matter who adopts a child if that child is going to receive love and care.
This man has been burdened beyond imagination, always believing that he wasn't good enough and that he would be going to hell.
Homosexuals are not "born this way".
Ok?
Thats Lady Gaga, and she's a nutbar, and enjoys pandering to the gay market so that they will buy her music and keep her fame alive.
"born this way"....is media driven, political correctness, that pretends to be scientific truth.
However.....There is no "gay gene". There is no genetic combination that produces a homosexual.
Homosexual, is simply, to want to have sex with the same gender.
THat is what defines you as a homosexual.....not anything else.
Only, their sex ACTS.
So, when you give "rights" to a homosexuals, based on them only being a homosexual, you are giving rights to their Perverted SEXUALITY.
See, "homosexual" is not an ethic group...>Its a sexual lifestyle.
Being Gay, is not the same as being black, or a woman, or an asian, or a native american.
And here is the main thing ...= Homosexuals do not reproduce, they RECRUIT.
They Recruit.
RIght now, millions of children sit in front of their Television, and a commercial comes on, and its 2 women kissing, or its 2 men, about to kiss.
That is the HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA, using the Media to entice and seduce, the young and the rest.
That is how they do it, using the MEDIA.
Its in the music, its in the movies, its in the HALLMARK CHANNEL, and everywhere else.
See, homosexual sex, cannot produce a baby, and that is because unnatural (same gender) sex, cannot produce a baby.
Men with men, and women with women, cannot produce a baby, because their SEXUALITY is unnatural.
Natural sexuality, is a man and a woman, which produces a baby.
Unnatural sexuality, cannot produce a baby.
In Genesis 1, man is told... "replenish the species"......Make more babies.
Well, Gay sex, homosexuality, CAN'T., because its unnatural sexuality.
So, here is an example..
If you allow 2 gay males to adopt a baby boy, then that baby boy will watch "gay behavior" all its life, and what does that produce?
Would God allow this?
Would God think this is right to do this to a BABY and a CHILD and a TEEN?
The Bible clearly teaches that we are to "train a child the way it should behave" and so, how are you training a baby, then a child, then a teen, when they SEE as their TRAINING......Homosexual BEHAVIOR all their LIFE, as their "parents'.
So, that is evil, and its offends God, and it definitely offends the Holy Spirit.
You see this is exactly what angers me and this is the whole entire reason that I started this topic. The fact is that none of us are good enough and that's why we need a Savior and I can't stand so-called Christians who tell people who are gay or transgender or whatever this because it is just about the biggest lie I've ever seen!!! They are hypocrites and instead of filling their minds with lies,.. they need to be told Jesus loves them just as much as He loves us and we might not share the same sins as them,.. but in the end, we're not all that different from them to begin with.