So why are they removed from the Lord's kingdom?

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shilohsfoal

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The two prophets weren't removed from the kingdom as you continue to claim, they ascended up to heaven prior to the 7th trump and second coming (The End)

As I said, they were removed from the kingdom.
They were in the kingdom then they ascended up into heaven in a cloud.
They are no longer in the kingdom after leaving it.
 

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The scripture you provide has absolutely nothing to do with the two witnesses of Revelation 11
Yes it does. The prostitute is drunk. They too were with the prostitute.
Luke 12:45 But suppose that servant says in his heart, 'My master will be a long time in coming,' and he begins to beat the menservants and maidservants, and to eat and drink and get drunk.

They have no clue what is about to transpire.
They have no clue they or the prostitute they are with are about to be destroyed.
 

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As I said, they were removed from the kingdom.
They were in the kingdom then they ascended up into heaven in a cloud.
They are no longer in the kingdom after leaving it.
The earth prior to the second coming is the antichrist's domain, the eternal kingdom in the new earth is established at the second coming when death is swallowed up in victory (The End)
 
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The earth prior to the second coming is the antichrist's domain, the eternal kingdom in the new earth is established at the second coming when death is swallowed up in victory (The End)

The false prophet has to be cast into the lake of fire.
That is the false prophet with two horns.
 

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Yes it does. The prostitute is drunk. They too were with the prostitute.
Luke 12:45 But suppose that servant says in his heart, 'My master will be a long time in coming,' and he begins to beat the menservants and maidservants, and to eat and drink and get drunk.

They have no clue what is about to transpire.
They have no clue they or the prostitute they are with are about to be destroyed.
The two witnesses are prophets of God, and have no association with the whore who is Jerusalem
 
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The false prophet has to be cast into the lake of fire.
That is the false prophet with two horns.
The (antichrist/beast) isn't the false prophet as claimed, they are two separate human beings
 

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It calls them witnesses and it calls them prophets.
It doesn't say they were raptured. It just says they ascended into heaven in a cloud.
I posted a picture of a cloud that ascends into heaven. That type of cloud carries many things into heaven.

Not people.



So why were they removed from Christ's kingdom just minuts before Christ inherits his kingdom?

It wasn't his kingdom yet when they were removed! Stop ignoring that fact!



Why were they removed from the kingdom?


They were not removed from a kingdom of Christ.
 

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Not people.





It wasn't his kingdom yet when they were removed! Stop ignoring that fact!






They were not removed from a kingdom of Christ.

OK They were removed from his kingdom before he recieved it.
You are avoiding the question.

Why were they removed from it?
The only people who seem to be removed are the wicked.

Those who are victorious over the beast are not removed. The 144000 who stand on Mt Zion with the Lamb are not removed.

Why were those two prophets removed like the wicked are?Why couldn't they stay with the Lamb in his kingdom?
 

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OK They were removed from his kingdom before he recieved it.

Which means they were not removed from his kingdom.


You are avoiding the question.

Why were they removed from it?
The only people who seem to be removed are the wicked.

Wrong. The rapture also removes people and they are rewarded for their faith by being changed to immortals. It's the day of the Great White Throne Judgement (GWTJ) is only when the wicked are removed from the world.


Those who are victorious over the beast are not removed. The 144000 who stand on Mt Zion with the Lamb are not removed.

They were removed from the world and returned when Christ did. The same thing applies to the raptured. They only leave Earth for a few minutes or less.


Why were those two prophets removed like the wicked are?Why couldn't they stay with the Lamb in his kingdom?


They go to heaven so they can join the army that follows Christ from heaven.

Stop teaching nonsense. You don't know what you are talking about.
 

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Why did the two prophets go up in smoke?
No one seems to know why.
They went up in a cloud, and it doesn't say smoke as you claim

Please post scripture to support your claims

Revelation 11:12KJV
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
 

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They went up in a cloud, and it doesn't say smoke as you claim

Please post scripture to support your claims

Revelation 11:12KJV
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.


G3507
νεφέλη
nephelē
Thayer Definition:
1) a cloud
1a) used of the cloud which led the Israelites in the wilderness
Part of Speech: noun feminine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G3509
Citing in TDNT: 4:902, 628

It's also the Greek word for a cloud in the sky, not smoke.
 
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You believe the law and the prophets lay dead in the street where also thier Lord was crucified?

Hahaha.
Thanks for the laugh.

This is an old study that I did

Who and what are the two witnesses?

Could the two witnesses be symbolic of the prophets and the law which point to Jesus. Why does God call them the two witnesses? Why the term witness? That means that they had to witness something. Is it because they witnesses and pointed to Jesus?

It took two witnesses to witness a testimony and two witnesses to witness a crime. Could the testimony be about who Jesus is and the crime be what Israel was guilty of?

Mosses represents the law and like the witnesses turned water into blood and struck the earth with all types of plagues. Elijah represents the prophets and like the witnesses he could shut the sky up so that it couldn’t rain and had fire devour his enemies. These two are the two olive trees and are also the two golden lamp stands the two anointed ones that stand before the lord. This is referred to in Zechariah chapter 4 and Jesus is also the anointed one.

Could the fire out of there mouths be the word of God that has power to condemn and convict. They are also dressed in sackcloth which represents repentance. Jews reading this would understand the meanings.

They mirror Jesus’ life as they also have a 3 ½ year ministry and can’t be killed until there time has come. They are killed by the beast (which I believe is a demon behind the power of Rome) and Rome also killed Jesus. They are killed in Jerusalem just like Jesus was. They are also dead for 3 ½ days like Jesus was and they are raised back to life and go up to heaven. Both Jesus and the two witnesses had earthquakes around the time of there death and there was also an earthquake when Jesus rose back to life.

Why is it 7000 people that died in the earthquake? Why the number 7000? Is it because 7 is the number of completeness and perfection to God and 1000 means many. It also says in Revelation 11:13 that people gave glory to God after the earthquake just like some people realized that Jesus was the son of God after the earthquake when Jesus died.

Why is Jerusalem also called Sodom and Egypt in Revelation 11:8. Because Sodom represents the morality of Jerusalem and Egypt represents the oppression of Jerusalem.

These two witnesses torment people with the word of God as there words torment and convicts people just like Jesus words did. The Pharisees were happy when Jesus died because he exposed them for who they were and they may of even gave gifts to one another when they celebrated His death.

Revelation is the unveiling of Jesus and these two witnesses help to reveal to us who Jesus is.
 
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Which means they were not removed from his kingdom.




Wrong. The rapture also removes people and they are rewarded for their faith by being changed to immortals. It's the day of the Great White Throne Judgement (GWTJ) is only when the wicked are removed from the world.




They were removed from the world and returned when Christ did. The same thing applies to the raptured. They only leave Earth for a few minutes or less.





They go to heaven so they can join the army that follows Christ from heaven.

Stop teaching nonsense. You don't know what you are talking about.

According to Paul, they would become immortal at the sound of the last trump. But as we see, those two prophets went up in smoke before the sound of the last trump.
 

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They went up in a cloud, and it doesn't say smoke as you claim

Please post scripture to support your claims

Revelation 11:12KJV
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

Now your saying a cloud of smoke is not a cloud?
From what I've read of the prostitute, people see smoke coming from Babylon.