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Heart2Soul

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With words that all here can understand.

Perhaps none today, since none can be produced.

How will you know it is the Holy Spirit speaking and not an evil spirit?

There are prophets...mainly false prophets.I can prove their existence by their words. I have encountered many false prophets. I have not yet met a true Prophet...

Hebrews 1:1-2 (KJV) God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Hebrews 2:3 (KJV) How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
Well perhaps one day you will meet a true prophet....but don't be so skeptical they exist today. If there is false prophets then by that statement you imply there a prophets today.
 

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Everyone can give an example of a false prophet. Why call them a false "prophet" ..why not just call them false "teachers" or false "witnesses" or liars?
My point is you can't present only one side of the equation without the other side being present as well.
I can't present something that today doesn't exist, unless you would like to try your hand and present to us a living true Prophet of God today.
 

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Well perhaps one day you will meet a true prophet....but don't be so skeptical they exist today. If there is false prophets then by that statement you imply there a prophets today.
Terrible reasoning. If you are so sure they exist today...bring forth your evidence.
 

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Terrible reasoning. If you are so sure they exist today...bring forth your evidence.
Where good is present evil is as well. Where there is evidence of truth there is opportunity for deceit....spiritual wisdom cannot be verified by carnal knowledge.
You want evidence ask God for it. I ain't driving to your location just to prove something to you. You do not matter to me concerning what you believe about prophets. That is between you and God. It doesn't affect your salvation if you don't believe in their existence...it just limits what God can do through you.
 

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Where good is present evil is as well. Where there is evidence of truth there is opportunity for deceit....spiritual wisdom cannot be verified by carnal knowledge.
You want evidence ask God for it. I ain't driving to your location just to prove something to you. You do not matter to me concerning what you believe about prophets. That is between you and God. It doesn't affect your salvation if you don't believe in their existence...it just limits what God can do through you.
You are babbling. Truth is according to His Word, 'Thy Word is truth' (John 17:17). Knowledge of His Word is not carnal, but being led by experiences, feelings and false whispering spirits is carnal.
You don't have to drive to my location, just type the words spoken by these "Prophets' so I and others here can read and test the spirits.
I have proven the bunch of you as charlatans not being able to name or cite one of your Prophets. I only hope it will be a learning experience for others here to profit from as I am sure those I challenged will only further grit their teeth clenching on to their false notions of there being Prophets today.
This whole notion is such a sham. At least one of you could have named someone like Keith Green, who sang words of rebuke to a derelict Church, which at that time was falling prey to commercialism...and he was Jewish as all the biblical prophets were, but he never claimed to be one.
Pick up your bibles, get back in the Word and quit being tossed to and fro by phony spiritualism.
 
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You are babbling. Truth is according to His Word, 'Thy Word is truth' (John 17:17). Knowledge of His Word is not carnal, but being led by experiences, feelings and false whispering spirits is carnal.
You don't have to drive to my location, just type the words spoken by these "Prophets' so I and others here can read and test the spirits.
I have proven the bunch of you as charlatans not being able to name or cite one of your Prophets. I only hope it will be a learning experience for others here to profit from as I am sure those I challenged will only further grit their teeth clenching on to their false notions of there being Prophets today.
This whole notion is such a sham. At least one of you could have named someone like Keith Green, who sang words of rebuke to a derelict Church, which at that time was falling prey to commercialism...and he was Jewish as all the biblical prophets were, but he never claimed to be one.
Pick up your bibles, get back in the Word and quit being tossed to and fro by phony spiritualism.
I am doing just fine in my relationship with my Father. His Word is what I stand on. I will not deny what He has shown me and allowed me to experience. What you do is between you and Him. I am not trying to convert your belief.
The OP asked for others to share...I did.
I don't want to keep going back and forth with you. We just have different views/experiences and it doesn't profit anyone to argue over it.
God bless.
 
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What do you want me to do with what I perceive to be false teachings? Pass out Graham crackers, milk and Play Doh?

2 Corinthians 10:4-5 (KJV) (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds, Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
What do I want you to do? Does that even matter? What does God want you to do?

I was only giving what I thought would be a helpful answer to your question, that was all.

Oh, and make sure those are the billy Graham crackers. Oh, and play dough!

OK . . . weird mood alert!

Much love!
 
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marks

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How can I answer?
Who: Those who are chosen by God...
Their message: Whatever the Holy Spirit says.
You are challenging me to prove to you the existence of prophets.. well that is like asking someone to prove the existence of the Holy Spirit....it is by faith and personal encounters that people come to believe. You ask for something I cannot give you...only He can.
That's just it, Heart2Soul! I know God speaks in prophecy because God has spoken to me. And I allow that to be a possibility because the Bible distinctly teaches it.

But the person who has not hear, or recognized God's voice that way, how do you know? And especially when there is such a strong push that all that is over?

Much love!
 
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I know God speaks in prophecy because God has spoken to me. And I allow that to be a possibility because the Bible distinctly teaches it.

But the person who has not hear, or recognized God's voice that way, how do you know? And especially when there is such a strong push that all that is over?
More assumptions. I've heard God's voice audibly...7 words...out loud...not speaking to me but the Son speaking to the Father...as if a veil of heaven was pulled back momentarily. So yes, God can speak to us but my point is that anything we hear will not add to Scripture, nor contradict Scripture, therefore there are no Prophets today, because there is no need for them...no new revelation is given. There do need to be prophetic voices though, calling the Church to repent of much of the nonsense it is involved in...using the Word by the convicting power of the Holy Spirit.
 

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There do need to be prophetic voices though, calling the Church to repent of much of the nonsense it is involved in...using the Word by the convicting power of the Holy Spirit.
Sounds to me like you are saying both things.

A prophet speaks the words God gives that person, at that time, to speak to another person, to them, special.

Maybe we're saying the same thing in different words. I'm not talking about Ezekiel getting yanked to Jerusalem by a lock of hair, Isaiah walking around . . . um . . . unclothed . . . for more than a year, or Elijah going to annoint Syrian kings.

I'm talking about someone sharing God's words with another to build them up in their most holy faith, in the leading and power of the Holy Spirit.

Much love!
 

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I'm talking about someone sharing God's words with another to build them up in their most holy faith, in the leading and power of the Holy Spirit.
That would be one with a gift of encouragement or exhortation.
What I am referring to is there are people today who claim the mantle of a Prophet, which would mean they are to be looked to for new revelations from God, where God (supposedly) speaks to them and the Church is to listen.
 

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I can't present something that today doesn't exist, unless you would like to try your hand and present to us a living true Prophet of God today.
Perhaps as a result of a person's negative faith he will never ever encounter a true prophet during his lifetime:

"according to your faith be it unto you".
 
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Terrible reasoning. If you are so sure they exist today...bring forth your evidence.

"Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." John 20:29

"...The just shall live by faith" Rom 1:17

And then is the "evidence":

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Heb 11:1
 
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I have proven the bunch of you as charlatans not being able to name or cite one of your Prophets. I only hope it will be a learning experience for others here to profit from as I am sure those I challenged will only further grit their teeth clenching on to their false notions of there being Prophets today.
What you have proven my friend is that when faith was required, you along with Thomas, fell short.
 
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That's just it, Heart2Soul! I know God speaks in prophecy because God has spoken to me. And I allow that to be a possibility because the Bible distinctly teaches it.

But the person who has not hear, or recognized God's voice that way, how do you know? And especially when there is such a strong push that all that is over?

Much love!
Jesus was standing with considerably fewer followers for many in their doubt had deserted him but instead of compromising he then challenged his closest followers:

"Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?" John 6:67

If those had also left, Jesus would have walked on alone. There was also a "strong push" against what he was saying and doing. Will you be swayed by the will of the majority instead of seeking God's will?
 
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That would be one with a gift of encouragement or exhortation.
What I am referring to is there are people today who claim the mantle of a Prophet, which would mean they are to be looked to for new revelations from God, where God (supposedly) speaks to them and the Church is to listen.
Thanks, I'm understanding that.

I see a baby floating around in that water, I want to make sure it doesn't go splat.

Much love!
 
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Perhaps as a result of a person's negative faith he will never ever encounter a true prophet during his lifetime:

"according to your faith be it unto you".
Whatever, would you like to name a Prophet of today, who brings us new revelation?
Negative faith? Nope, just faith grounded in God's Word, not in our own imaginations.
 

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"Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." John 20:29

"...The just shall live by faith" Rom 1:17

And then is the "evidence":

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Heb 11:1
Let me add one...
Romans 10:17 (KJV) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
 

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What you have proven my friend is that when faith was required, you along with Thomas, fell short.
No I have proven that despite the claims of a living Prophet today, no names or quotes can be produced. Would you like to try your hand at coming up with a living Prophet, oh mighty man of faith?
 

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Whatever, would you like to name a Prophet of today, who brings us new revelation?
Negative faith? Nope, just faith grounded in God's Word, not in our own imaginations.

Is not the following located also in what you call God's Word?

"And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:" Eph 4:11-12


Since the saints are not all perfected and the work of the ministry continues the need for them remains, does it not?
 
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