The answer of hell and its origins

[The Learner]

The term "Son of Man" is one of Jesus' favorite names for Himself. He will refer to Himself using this title several times in the Gospels. This is a phrase which all Jewish people would have recognized (Daniel 7:13). It connects Jesus to Old Testament prophecy. In John 1:51, Jesus used this term while describing angels ascending and descending. Here, He is saying that no person has ever gone to heaven and returned. The only person present on earth who was once in heaven is Christ Himself. In verses 11 and 12, Jesus explains that a person who won't believe earthly claims won't believe heavenly ones, either. If Nicodemus, or anyone else, rejects what Jesus says about heaven, there isn't any other source to which they can go. This is one of the places in John chapter 3 where Jesus makes a claim to "exclusivity." This, in short, means that Jesus is the one and only way to God—there are no other options.

What does John 3:13 mean? | BibleRef.com

No one has ascended into heaven, except He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man. - What is the meaning of John 3:13?

www.bibleref.com

 

[The Learner]

What is death Jack? Isn't it, the cessation of all functions of life, so, the opposite of life? (Deuteronomy 30:15, 19) Isn't it true that the Bible has the same original-language words for “death” or “dying” and are applied to humans, animals, and plants? (Ecclesiastes 3:19; 9:5; John 12:24; Jude 12; Revelation 16:3) However, for humans and animals doesn't the Bible show the vital function of the blood is maintaining life, stating that “the soul of the flesh is in the blood?” (Leviticus 17:11, 14; Genesis 4:8-11; 9:3, 4) Both humans and animals are spoken of as ‘expiring,’ that is, ‘breathing out’ the breath of life (Hebrew - nish math chai yim). (Genesis 7:21, 22; compare Genesis 2:7) And the Scriptures show that death in humans and animals follows the loss of the spirit or active force of life (Hebrew- ruach chai yim) Genesis 6:17; 7:15, 22; Ecclesiastes 3:19.

So from a biblical view point was is death? It's of interest to note what is known scientifically of the death process. In humans, for example, when the heart stops beating, the blood ceases to circulate nourishment and oxygen (obtained by breathing) to the billions of body cells.The World Book Encyclopedia (1987, Vol. 5, p. 52b) says: “A person whose heart and lungs stop working may be considered clinically dead but somatic death may not yet have occurred. The individual cells of the body continue to live for several minutes. The person may be revived if the heart and lungs start working again and give the cells the oxygen they need. After about three minutes, the brain cells, which are most sensitive to a lack of oxygen, begin to die. The person is soon dead beyond any possibility of revival. Gradually, other cells of the body also die. The last ones to perish are the bone, hair, and skin cells, which may continue to grow for several hours.” So while the vital importance of breathing and of the blood in maintaining the active life-force (ruach chai yim) in the body cells is evident, at the same time it is also clear that it is not the cessation of breathing or of heartbeat alone but the disappearance of the life-force or spirit from the body cells that brings death as referred to in the Scriptures.(Psalm 104:29; 146:4; Ecclesiastes 8:8)

In the scriptures the dead are shown to be “conscious of nothing at all” and the death state to be one of complete inactivity. (Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10; Psalm 146:4) Those dying are described as going into “the dust of death” (Psalm 22:15), becoming “impotent in death.” (Proverbs 2:18; Isaiah 26:14) In death there is no mention of God or any praising of him. (Psalm 6:5; Isaiah 38:18, 19) In both the Hebrew and the Greek Scriptures, death is likened to sleep, a fitting comparison not only because of the unconscious condition of the dead but also because of the hope of an awakening through the resurrection. (Psalm 13:3; John 11:11-14) The resurrected Jesus is spoken of as “the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep in death.”(1 Corinthians 15:20, 21)

The Interpreter's Bible (Vol. II, p. 1015), commenting on 1 Samuel 25:29, observes that “the idea of man as consisting of body and soul which are separated at death is not Hebrew but Greek.” (Edited by G. Buttrick, 1953) Similarly, Edmond Jacob, Professor of Old Testament at the University of Strasbourg, points out that, since in the Hebrew Scriptures one’s life is directly related with the soul (Hebrew, nephesh), “it is natural that death should sometimes be represented as the disappearance of this nephesh. (Genesis 35:18; 1 Kings 17:21; Jeremiah 15:9; Jonah 4:3). The ‘departure’ of the nephesh must be viewed as a figure of speech, for it does not continue to exist independently of the body, but dies with it (Numbers 31:19; Judges 16:30; Ezekiel 13:19). The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, edited by G. Buttrick, 1962, Vol. 1, p.802 says, "No biblical text authorizes the statement that the ‘soul’ is separated from the body at the moment of death.”
The point is that these people who are not Jehovah's Witnesses and many others agree that Adam and Eve, and all human beings after them when they died, ceased to exist as living souls, or living persons. Jesus came to humanity in the likeness of the first Adam. So when Jesus sacrificed his human life the only begotten Son of God didn't exist as a living soul or living person for parts of three days. Death is the opposite of life.

James 2:26
Easy-to-Read Version
26 A person’s body that does not have a spirit is dead. It is the same with faith—faith that does nothing is dead!

1 Peter 3:18-20
Christ himself suffered when he died for you,
and with that one death he paid for your sins.
He was not guilty,
but he died for people who are guilty.
He did this to bring all of you to God.
In his physical form he was killed,
but he was made alive by the Spirit.[a]
19 And by the Spirit he went and preached to the spirits in prison. 20 Those were the spirits who refused to obey God long ago in the time of Noah. God was waiting patiently for people while Noah was building the big boat. And only a few—eight in all—were saved in the boat through the floodwater.

1 Peter 4:6
King James Version
6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

 

[The Learner]

read to here, being kicked off by wife

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

1 Peter 4:6
King James Version
6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

At 1 Peter 4:6, Who were “the dead” to whom “the good news was declared”?
I believe these were ones who were ‘dead in their trespasses and sins,’ or who were spiritually dead, before they heard the good news. (Ephesians 2:1) After putting faith in the good news, though, they began to “live” spiritually.
There are those who believe that humans have an immortal soul.This belief has caused many to believe that there is a spirit in humans that lives on and is personally identified with the man.1 Peter 4:6 is cited to support this view.

These believers teach the idea that the spirit is an intelligent being that survives the death of the human body so they contend that Peter here gave evidence of this when he mentioned the good news as being declared to the dead. Is this so? In order to ‘handle God’s word aright,’ we must let it speak for itself. Was Peter there referring to persons who were physically dead? Well since the physically dead are “conscious of nothing at all” (Ecclesiastes 9:5), these dead mentioned by Peter are the same as those Jesus spoke of when he said: “Let the dead bury their dead,” and those referred to by the apostle Paul when he wrote: “It is you God made alive though you were dead in your trespasses and sins.” Anyone living who is dead in the sight of Jehovah can come to life in a spiritual sense by hearing the word of God, repenting and following the Lord Jesus. The hope for the literal dead is the resurrection and the opportunity then to hear the good news and to be judged. (Matthew 8:22; Ephesians 2:1)

We need to be cautious in the applying of scriptures so that they correctly present God’s Word when we preach and teach.

 

[St. SteVen]

Almost seems like you deny Hell fire that Jesus clearly taught.

You say that as if it isn't a debatable subject.
What do you make of this?

Bibles that do NOT contain the word "Hell".

Wesley's New Testament (1755)
Scarlett's N.T. (1798)
The New Testament in Greek and English (Kneeland, 1823)
Young's Literal Translation (1891)
Twentieth Century New Testament (1900)
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (reprinted, 1902)
Fenton's Holy Bible in Modern English (1903)
Weymouth's New Testament in Modern Speech (1903)
The New Testament, James Moffat, (1917)
Jewish Publication Society Bible Old Testament (1917)
Panin's Numeric English New Testament (1914)
The New Testament, Charles B. Williams, 1937
The People's New Covenant (Overbury, 1925)
Hanson's New Covenant (1884)
Western N.T. (1926)
NT of our Lord and Savior Anointed (Tomanek, 1958)
Concordant Literal NT (1983)
he N.T., A Translation (Clementson, 1938)
Emphatic Diaglott, Greek/English Interlinear (Wilson, 1942)
New American Bible (1970)
Restoration of Original Sacred Name Bible (1976)
Tanakh, The Holy Scriptures, Old Testament (1985)
The New Testament, A New Translation (Greber, 1980)
Christian Bible (1991)
The Scriptures (1993)
World English Bible (in progress)
Orthodox Jewish Brit Chadasha [NT Only]
Original Bible Project (Dr. James Tabor, still in translation)
Zondervan Parallel N.T. in Greek and English (1975)**
Int. NASB-NIV Parallel N.T. in Greek and English (1993)**
A Critical Paraphrase of the N.T. by Vincent T. Roth (1960)
New Testament, Recovery Version, Living Stream Ministry, 1991
New American Bible Revised Edition (NABRE)
Roman Catholic Holy Bible In Its Original Order, Fred R. Coulter, 2007
Etymological N.T. (An Ultra Literal Translation, 2011, Michael Wine)
Aramaic Peshitta New Testament, 2006, Janet M. Magiera
MirrorWord N.T. (Francois du Toit) still in translation
Victorious Gospel of Jesus Christ, Electronic Ver. (Tentmaker Ministries)
The Source N.T. (Dr. Ann Nyland), 2004, 2007
Jonathan Mitchell N.T. (Jonathan Mitchell) 2009
The Scriptures, 2016
Tree of Life Version, Baker Bookhouse, 2016******
The New Testament (David Bentley Hart) Yale University Press, 2017

 

[bbyrd009]

2Co 12:2 - I knew a man-in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth such an one caught up to the third heaven.

2Co 12:3 - And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth

2Co 12:4 - How that he was caught up into paradise,and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

again i would guess that you are making out something different than what Paul meant to impart, i mean unless you prefer to play Dueling Scriptures and ignore what Jesus said?

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Paul said “having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; “ He also said to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Clearly he expected life after death. 2Co 5:8 - We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

I'm not going to deny 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 as you're doing. The apostle Paul taught us that the heavenly resurrection for those “in union with Christ” had not yet begun to occur at the time Paul wrote to the Corinthians. Paul pointed to a future time: “Each one in his own proper order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who belong to the Christ during his presence.” (1 Corinthians 15:23; 1 Thessalonians 4:15, 16) So Paul said he knew he wouldn't be resurrected until during the second presence of Jesus Christ.

 

[RLT63]

again i would guess that you are making out something different than what Paul meant to impart, i mean unless you prefer to play Dueling Scriptures and ignore what Jesus said?

Paul’s experience was after Jesus’ earthly ministry and has no bearing on what Jesus said, but I would ask where Enoch and Elijah went.

 

[RLT63]

I'm not going to deny 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 as you're doing. The apostle Paul taught us that the heavenly resurrection for those “in union with Christ” had not yet begun to occur at the time Paul wrote to the Corinthians. Paul pointed to a future time: “Each one in his own proper order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who belong to the Christ during his presence.” (1 Corinthians 15:23; 1 Thessalonians 4:15, 16) So Paul said he knew he wouldn't be resurrected until during the second presence of Jesus Christ.

Wait a minute, other JWs have told me that as one of the 144,000 Paul didn’t have to wait. Which is it? Did he have the “Heavenly Hope “?

 

[The Learner]

You say that as if it isn't a debatable subject.
What do you make of this?

Bibles that do NOT contain the word "Hell".

Wesley's New Testament (1755)
Scarlett's N.T. (1798)
The New Testament in Greek and English (Kneeland, 1823)
Young's Literal Translation (1891)
Twentieth Century New Testament (1900)
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (reprinted, 1902)
Fenton's Holy Bible in Modern English (1903)
Weymouth's New Testament in Modern Speech (1903)
The New Testament, James Moffat, (1917)
Jewish Publication Society Bible Old Testament (1917)
Panin's Numeric English New Testament (1914)
The New Testament, Charles B. Williams, 1937
The People's New Covenant (Overbury, 1925)
Hanson's New Covenant (1884)
Western N.T. (1926)
NT of our Lord and Savior Anointed (Tomanek, 1958)
Concordant Literal NT (1983)
he N.T., A Translation (Clementson, 1938)
Emphatic Diaglott, Greek/English Interlinear (Wilson, 1942)
New American Bible (1970)
Restoration of Original Sacred Name Bible (1976)
Tanakh, The Holy Scriptures, Old Testament (1985)
The New Testament, A New Translation (Greber, 1980)
Christian Bible (1991)
The Scriptures (1993)
World English Bible (in progress)
Orthodox Jewish Brit Chadasha [NT Only]
Original Bible Project (Dr. James Tabor, still in translation)
Zondervan Parallel N.T. in Greek and English (1975)**
Int. NASB-NIV Parallel N.T. in Greek and English (1993)**
A Critical Paraphrase of the N.T. by Vincent T. Roth (1960)
New Testament, Recovery Version, Living Stream Ministry, 1991
New American Bible Revised Edition (NABRE)
Roman Catholic Holy Bible In Its Original Order, Fred R. Coulter, 2007
Etymological N.T. (An Ultra Literal Translation, 2011, Michael Wine)
Aramaic Peshitta New Testament, 2006, Janet M. Magiera
MirrorWord N.T. (Francois du Toit) still in translation
Victorious Gospel of Jesus Christ, Electronic Ver. (Tentmaker Ministries)
The Source N.T. (Dr. Ann Nyland), 2004, 2007
Jonathan Mitchell N.T. (Jonathan Mitchell) 2009
The Scriptures, 2016
Tree of Life Version, Baker Bookhouse, 2016******
The New Testament (David Bentley Hart) Yale University Press, 2017

Only have time to look at first in your list which makes it useless for your claims friend.

Wesley's notes:

21. But - whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord - This expression implies the whole of religion, and particularly prayer uttered in faith; shall be saved - From all those plagues; from sin and hell.

27. Thou wilt not leave my soul in hades - The invisible world. But it does not appear, that ever our Lord went into hell. His soul, when it was separated from the body, did not go thither, but to paradise, Luke xxiii, 43. The meaning is, Thou wilt not leave my soul in its separate state, nor suffer my body to be corrupted.

John Wesley: Wesley's Notes on the Bible - Christian Classics Ethereal Library

www.ccel.org

His sermon speaks of Hell 12 times and punishment 11 times:

John Wesley, Sermon 73: Of Hell

The punishment of those who, in spite of all the warnings of God, resolve to have their portion with the devil and his angels, will, according to the ancient and not improper division, be either 'paena damni,' -- 'what they lose' or 'paena sensus,' -- 'what they feel.'

wbbm.org

Google Wesley's New Testament Hell there are About 3,190,000 results (0.60 seconds) .

The Wesley Center Online: John Wesley's Notes on the Bible

Hell is used 9 times in this chapter: The Wesley Center Online: Notes On The Gospel According To St Matthew

 

[The Learner]

read to here

 

[St. SteVen]

Only have time to look at first in your list which makes it useless for your claims friend.

Well... I suppose I better remove that from my list. - LOL
Thanks.

 

[The Learner]

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Weymouth New Testament uses Hell 19 times.

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This edition does not use the word hell.

 

[The Learner]

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Emphatic Diaglott Only uses hell in the glossary explaining why it does not use it. I expected that from a Christadelphian source.

 

[bbyrd009]

Paul’s experience was after Jesus’ earthly ministry and has no bearing on what Jesus said, but I would ask where Enoch and Elijah went.

well, surely Jesus was aware of them, so my guess would be that a literary style is being taken too literally

 

[Jack]

yes ok, but it is us who perceives it to be in some “afterlife,” when the term for that would have been Abaddon or something, not Gehenna, which is right here on earth

therefore you can say that you believe Jesus all you like, but you might be sorely misunderstanding Him, since He also said “No one has ever gone up to heaven,” but you ignore that one right

Hell will be filled with people who don't believe in Hell. The really sad part is that they lead their loved ones to Hell with them.

 

[Jack]

Just because a person quotes Jesus doesn't me they understand accurately what Jesus was saying. Anybody can quote Jesus.

Yeah I quote Jesus. He warned us of the "everlasting fire" and "Hell fire". I'll believe Him over Kingdom Hall any day!

 

[Jack]

What is death Jack? Isn't it, the cessation of all functions of life, so, the opposite of life? (Deuteronomy 30:15, 19) Isn't it true that the Bible has the same original-language words for “death” or “dying” and are applied to humans, animals, and plants? (Ecclesiastes 3:19; 9:5; John 12:24; Jude 12; Revelation 16:3) However, for humans and animals doesn't the Bible show the vital function of the blood is maintaining life, stating that “the soul of the flesh is in the blood?” (Leviticus 17:11, 14; Genesis 4:8-11; 9:3, 4) Both humans and animals are spoken of as ‘expiring,’ that is, ‘breathing out’ the breath of life (Hebrew - nish math chai yim). (Genesis 7:21, 22; compare Genesis 2:7) And the Scriptures show that death in humans and animals follows the loss of the spirit or active force of life (Hebrew- ruach chai yim) Genesis 6:17; 7:15, 22; Ecclesiastes 3:19.

So from a biblical view point was is death? It's of interest to note what is known scientifically of the death process. In humans, for example, when the heart stops beating, the blood ceases to circulate nourishment and oxygen (obtained by breathing) to the billions of body cells.The World Book Encyclopedia (1987, Vol. 5, p. 52b) says: “A person whose heart and lungs stop working may be considered clinically dead but somatic death may not yet have occurred. The individual cells of the body continue to live for several minutes. The person may be revived if the heart and lungs start working again and give the cells the oxygen they need. After about three minutes, the brain cells, which are most sensitive to a lack of oxygen, begin to die. The person is soon dead beyond any possibility of revival. Gradually, other cells of the body also die. The last ones to perish are the bone, hair, and skin cells, which may continue to grow for several hours.” So while the vital importance of breathing and of the blood in maintaining the active life-force (ruach chai yim) in the body cells is evident, at the same time it is also clear that it is not the cessation of breathing or of heartbeat alone but the disappearance of the life-force or spirit from the body cells that brings death as referred to in the Scriptures.(Psalm 104:29; 146:4; Ecclesiastes 8:8)

In the scriptures the dead are shown to be “conscious of nothing at all” and the death state to be one of complete inactivity. (Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10; Psalm 146:4) Those dying are described as going into “the dust of death” (Psalm 22:15), becoming “impotent in death.” (Proverbs 2:18; Isaiah 26:14) In death there is no mention of God or any praising of him. (Psalm 6:5; Isaiah 38:18, 19) In both the Hebrew and the Greek Scriptures, death is likened to sleep, a fitting comparison not only because of the unconscious condition of the dead but also because of the hope of an awakening through the resurrection. (Psalm 13:3; John 11:11-14) The resurrected Jesus is spoken of as “the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep in death.”(1 Corinthians 15:20, 21)

The Interpreter's Bible (Vol. II, p. 1015), commenting on 1 Samuel 25:29, observes that “the idea of man as consisting of body and soul which are separated at death is not Hebrew but Greek.” (Edited by G. Buttrick, 1953) Similarly, Edmond Jacob, Professor of Old Testament at the University of Strasbourg, points out that, since in the Hebrew Scriptures one’s life is directly related with the soul (Hebrew, nephesh), “it is natural that death should sometimes be represented as the disappearance of this nephesh. (Genesis 35:18; 1 Kings 17:21; Jeremiah 15:9; Jonah 4:3). The ‘departure’ of the nephesh must be viewed as a figure of speech, for it does not continue to exist independently of the body, but dies with it (Numbers 31:19; Judges 16:30; Ezekiel 13:19). The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, edited by G. Buttrick, 1962, Vol. 1, p.802 says, "No biblical text authorizes the statement that the ‘soul’ is separated from the body at the moment of death.”
The point is that these people who are not Jehovah's Witnesses and many others agree that Adam and Eve, and all human beings after them when they died, ceased to exist as living souls, or living persons. Jesus came to humanity in the likeness of the first Adam. So when Jesus sacrificed his human life the only begotten Son of God didn't exist as a living soul or living person for parts of three days. Death is the opposite of life.

Nice Kingdom Hall smoke screen! Why don't you quote one Scripture at a time? You're not qualified to rewrite our Bible.

 

[Jack]

You say that as if it isn't a debatable subject.
What do you make of this?

Bibles that do NOT contain the word "Hell".

Wesley's New Testament (1755)
Scarlett's N.T. (1798)
The New Testament in Greek and English (Kneeland, 1823)
Young's Literal Translation (1891)
Twentieth Century New Testament (1900)
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (reprinted, 1902)
Fenton's Holy Bible in Modern English (1903)
Weymouth's New Testament in Modern Speech (1903)
The New Testament, James Moffat, (1917)
Jewish Publication Society Bible Old Testament (1917)
Panin's Numeric English New Testament (1914)
The New Testament, Charles B. Williams, 1937
The People's New Covenant (Overbury, 1925)
Hanson's New Covenant (1884)
Western N.T. (1926)
NT of our Lord and Savior Anointed (Tomanek, 1958)
Concordant Literal NT (1983)
he N.T., A Translation (Clementson, 1938)
Emphatic Diaglott, Greek/English Interlinear (Wilson, 1942)
New American Bible (1970)
Restoration of Original Sacred Name Bible (1976)
Tanakh, The Holy Scriptures, Old Testament (1985)
The New Testament, A New Translation (Greber, 1980)
Christian Bible (1991)
The Scriptures (1993)
World English Bible (in progress)
Orthodox Jewish Brit Chadasha [NT Only]
Original Bible Project (Dr. James Tabor, still in translation)
Zondervan Parallel N.T. in Greek and English (1975)**
Int. NASB-NIV Parallel N.T. in Greek and English (1993)**
A Critical Paraphrase of the N.T. by Vincent T. Roth (1960)
New Testament, Recovery Version, Living Stream Ministry, 1991
New American Bible Revised Edition (NABRE)
Roman Catholic Holy Bible In Its Original Order, Fred R. Coulter, 2007
Etymological N.T. (An Ultra Literal Translation, 2011, Michael Wine)
Aramaic Peshitta New Testament, 2006, Janet M. Magiera
MirrorWord N.T. (Francois du Toit) still in translation
Victorious Gospel of Jesus Christ, Electronic Ver. (Tentmaker Ministries)
The Source N.T. (Dr. Ann Nyland), 2004, 2007
Jonathan Mitchell N.T. (Jonathan Mitchell) 2009
The Scriptures, 2016
Tree of Life Version, Baker Bookhouse, 2016******
The New Testament (David Bentley Hart) Yale University Press, 2017

You're playing word games that won't hold up on Judgment Day. "Hell fire", "everlasting fire", "forever and ever" are Bible.

 

[Davy]

It's clear you believe in this hell.
Can you show it from Genesis? Genesis 3:19 maybe?

How about Genesis 1?

Gen 1:3-4
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
KJV

At Genesis 1:1 was God's original perfect creation of the heavens and the earth.

At Genesis 1:2 the earth is shown laid waste with waters of a flood upon it, in a destroyed surface state, revealing that God ended that old world, no doubt because of Satan's rebellion. Jeremiah 4:23-28 gives more detail about that time of destruction of the old world. The separation of light from the darkness could suggest God setting up Heavenly places of separation because of Satan's rebellion.

In Genesis 1:6-10 God is setting up the conditions of waters for this present world.