The Christmas Tree = Jeremiah 10;1-8, Habakkuk 2;19-20

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The Christmas Tree = Jeremiah 10;1-8, Habakkuk 2;19-20
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Jeremiah 10;1-8
Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might. Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? For to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee. But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities.


Habakkuk 2;19-20
Woe unto him that saith to the wood, Awake; to the dumb stone, Arise, it shall teach! Behold, it is laid over with gold and silver, and there is no breath at all in the midst of it. But the LORD is in His holy temple: let all the earth keep silence before Him.


AMEN

 

[theefaith]

This refers to worship of the tree

a Christ-mas tree represents the cross of Christ

the lights represent Christ as the light of the world

a partridge in a pear tree: Christ on the cross
Two turtle doves: the old and new covenants or the old and new testaments
Three french (catholic) hens: faith hope and charity
Four calling birds: Matt mark luke and john

etc.

 

[Davy]

That's about idol worship using wood and stone that pagans did in Old Testament times, not the Christmas tree. No Christian that observes Christmas is doing idol worship like you Jews think.

 

[Robert Gwin]

This refers to worship of the tree

a Christ-mas tree represents the cross of Christ

the lights represent Christ as the light of the world

a partridge in a pear tree: Christ on the cross
Two turtle doves: the old and new covenants or the old and new testaments
Three french (catholic) hens: faith hope and charity
Four calling birds: Matt mark luke and john

etc.

CHRISTMAS TREE
Ancient northern peoples feared that the long darkness of December would conquer the sun. As part of a magical rite, they decorated their homes with holly, ivy, mistletoe, laurels and other evergreens because these seemed to have supernatural ability to survive. Candles and fires were burned in an attempt to revive the dying sun. In parts of Europe the ceremonial burning of a log is still practiced. What is behind this practice that is now a Christmas custom? It was apparently the fusion of two old customs, lights with evergreens, which gave us our modern Christmas tree, concludes Michael Harrison in The Story Of Christmas.

Some authorities attribute the origin of the Christmas tree to Boniface, who convinced the eighth-century Germans to abandon their worship of the sacred oak trees. According to the legend, when he chopped down one of their sacred oak, a young fir tree grew up in its place. Boniface told the new converts that the fir would be their holy tree, the tree of Christ.

Others believe that the Christmas tree came from the paradise tree, popular in medieval Germany. The tree was the centerpiece in the paradise play honoring “saints” Adam and Eve, whose feast was on December 24th.It was decorated with apples and wafers.

Indeed, the first reference to the Christmas as we know it came from Strasbourg, Germany, in 1531. German settlers eventually carried the custom to North America, where it was embellished popularized. The first electrically lighted Christmas tree appeared in 1882 in New York City in the home of Edward Johnson, an associate, appropriately, of Thomas Edison, inventor of the electric lamp.

The Christmas tree, an evergreen trimmed with lights and other decorations, is derived from the so-called paradise tree, symbolizing Eden, of German mystery plays. The use of a Christmas tree began early in the 17th century, in Strasbourg, Germany, spreading then into northern Europe. In 1841 Albert, prince consort of Queen Victoria, introduced the Christmas tree custom to Great Britain; from there it accompanied immigrants to the United States. (Funk & Wagnalls New Encyclopedia Vol.6 p.265.)

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

That's about idol worship using wood and stone that pagans did in Old Testament times, not the Christmas tree. No Christian that observes Christmas is doing idol worship like you Jews think.

God has a completely different position on the matter. Verse 3 clearly mentions a tree being worshiped, first of all. Secondly, there is more to idol worship than the literal act of bowing before something. The people who celebrate Christmas are guilty of committing idolatry for a host of reasons:

1. The tree is always set in a place where it becomes the focal point of a room and is always decorated in a way to attract the most amount of attention. The fact that presents are also strategically placed under the tree in and itself makes it an idol. The whole point of the custom was for people to offer gifts to the Babylonian sun god.

2. Exo. 32 shows the Israelites didn't bow down to the calf, and yet God says they were still guilty of idolatry because they put a false god in His place, proclaimed that it was the God who rescued them from Egypt, and falsely surmised that they were honoring Him in the process by centering their corrupt worship around this statue. That's all it takes.

"Christians" do the exact same thing when they insist the tree supposedly represents the same Christ that came here many centuries ago, nvm the obvious fact that nobody in the NT ever made such a connection.

3. Protestants and Catholics have to lie about why they're celebrating Christmas, because the Bible clearly shows there is 0 justification for it. So on top of idolatry, they are guilty of blaspheming God and lying. And as Proverbs shows, lying is an abomination.

4. The fact that Protestants and Catholics go that far out of their way to justify celebrating an idolatrous festival means they're worshiping their own reasoning as in idol. And just in case anyone tries to argue that it isn't possible, read what God says to Ezekiel:

“Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their hearts, and put before them that which causes them to stumble into iniquity. Should I let Myself be inquired of at all by them?" -Eze. 14:3

As you can also see in this same passage, God literally says such people will be soundly ignored when they pray to Him. And why shouldn't He ignore them, considering they believe their reasoning is more authoritative than His words?

5. Regardless of someone's intent, celebrating Satan-inspired festivals means someone is sacrificing to demons and doing what God calls playing the harlot. Read Lev. 17:7, Deut. 32:7, Psa. 106:37, 1 Cor. 10:20-21. A person cannot get in bed with Satan like this and call themselves a follower of God. There's a reason why Jesus told the Samaritan woman that her people practiced a false religion for centuries: they weren't worshiping God in truth.

All the good intentions in the world mean absolutely nothing without the truth. As Christ plainly taught in Mar. 7, it is completely possible to worship Him in vain. And that's exactly what millions of "Christians" do every year, especially when Christmas and Easter roll around: they give Christ corrupt worship that He already said is completely unacceptable, and they act like He is just supposed to accept it because their intentions are good.

The best way any follower can truly honor their teacher or master is to follow their example and do what they commanded. If Muslims understand this concept enough to follow Mohammed's example and do what he said, then surely professing Christians should understand it enough to follow Christ's example and do what He said, if He is indeed their Lord and Savior.

 

[Davy]

God has a completely different position on the matter. Verse 3 clearly mentions a tree being worshiped, first of all. Secondly, there is more to idol worship than the literal act of bowing before something. The people who celebrate Christmas are guilty of committing idolatry for a host of reasons:

Pagans in the past may have used that in false worship, but Christians do not, so you can keep telling lies all you want, because that's all you're trying to do, which reveals a JEWISH attack against Christians.

What you probably don't know, is that because of Judah's rebelliousness against YHVH, and His Son Jesus Christ, He is going to send the unbelieving Jews a FAKE MESSIAH to Jerusalem, and him the deceived Jews will accept as their God, and will worship him in place of The True Messiah Jesus Christ. What will be even worse is that coming false messiah will be Satan himself in Jerusalem, de facto here on earth in person, as the Jew's king.

So talk about Christians putting up Christmas trees as pagan worship, the Jews are going to be worshiping the devil himself!!! Now compare that to putting up a Christmas tree to celebrate CHRIST'S BIRTH!

 

[theefaith]

Worship requires intent!

 

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The Christmas Tree = Jeremiah 10;1-8, Habakkuk 2;19-20
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Jeremiah 10;1-8
Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might. Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? For to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee. But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities.


Habakkuk 2;19-20
Woe unto him that saith to the wood, Awake; to the dumb stone, Arise, it shall teach! Behold, it is laid over with gold and silver, and there is no breath at all in the midst of it. But the LORD is in His holy temple: let all the earth keep silence before Him.


AMEN

There does seem to be a similarity, doesn't there?

These prophets were speaking of those who would shape a piece of wood into an idol, then overlay it with gold and silver, and mount gemstones onto it, and fasten it to a base to worship it.

Much love!

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

Pagans in the past may have used that in false worship, but Christians do not, so you can keep telling lies all you want, because that's all you're trying to do, which reveals a JEWISH attack against Christians.

What you probably don't know, is that because of Judah's rebelliousness against YHVH, and His Son Jesus Christ, He is going to send the unbelieving Jews a FAKE MESSIAH to Jerusalem, and him the deceived Jews will accept as their God, and will worship him in place of The True Messiah Jesus Christ. What will be even worse is that coming false messiah will be Satan himself in Jerusalem, de facto here on earth in person, as the Jew's king.

So talk about Christians putting up Christmas trees as pagan worship, the Jews are going to be worshiping the devil himself!!! Now compare that to putting up a Christmas tree to celebrate CHRIST'S BIRTH!

I'm not going to bother arguing with you because you've already made up your mind that your persecution complex and your fake Christianity is more important to you than the truth. What i will say though, is that you've been warned. When you suffer the inevitable consequences for willfully rejecting the truth, you will have nobody to blame but yourself.

 

[Davy]

I'm not going to bother arguing with you because you've already made up your mind that your persecution complex and your fake Christianity is more important to you than the truth. What i will say though, is that you've been warned. When you suffer the inevitable consequences for willfully rejecting the truth, you will have nobody to blame but yourself.

And you have been warned about pushing FALSE traditions of the unbelieving JEWS here on a CHRISTIAN FORUM.

 

[theefaith]

And you have been warned about pushing FALSE traditions of the unbelieving JEWS here on a CHRISTIAN FORUM.

the pitiful Jews who rejected thier own salvation and crucified thier own savior