Ummmmm, I never stated that being saved once is a lie.
Uh...LOL
Perhaps you are unaware that a fallacy is an UNTRUTH, and an UNTRUTH is a lie.
In this VERY post you say...
...the fallacy of OSAS...
I have said repeatedly what the BIBLE days - that salvation is a process and not a one-time, slam-dunk event.
Yes you have repeatedly preached your erroneous Belief.
NO, SALVATION is NOT A PROCESS.
The MAN PREPARING "TO RECEIVE" Salvation IS THE MANS "PROCESS of Preparation".
We do NOT RECEIVE "SALVATION" in "INCREMENTS"!!! .
THE man puts INSELF in the POSITION to BECOME PREPARED and FOLLOWS THOUGH WITH HIS PREPARATION.
IT IS Thee Lord GOD who GIVES "INCREMENTS" of FAITH to the man....NOT "INCREMENTS" of SALVATION!!
LEADING UP TO....BECOMING PREPARED TO...Receive SALVATION...IS A PROCESS..
It's CALLED....HEARING...(BY the man)
which is the BEGINNING of Preparation.
Rom 10:17 ... HEARING
It's CALLED ....FOLLOWING.....(BY the man) which is a STAGE of Preparation.
Matt 4:19 .... FOLLOW JESUS
It is CALLED....TRUST....(By the man)
Which is a STAGE of Preparation.
2 Cor 3:4 ....TRUST THROUGHT JESUS
It is CALLED.....BELIEF....(BY the man)
Which is a STAGE of Preparation.
John 14:1 ......BELIEVE IN God and IN JESUS
Is is CALLED....FAITH....(A gift Forward FROM the Lord TO the Man WHO PREPARES, according to the Lords Design.
Which FAITH is an on going GIFT that INCREASES forward to the man DURING his Preparation.
AND the LAST STEP ....(BY the man)....
IS his WILLING CHOICE to "COMMIT" to Receiving the GIft of the Lords "SALVATION"
And the LAST STEP.....(By the Lord)....
IS Thee Lord "CONVERTING" the man.
The Bible is CLEAR about the fact that we go through:
Yes it is....however per your usual, you do not distnguish the True FACTS and Verifying Scripture.
YOU TEACH....you RECEIVED the HOLY SPIRIT...as a BABY, without your Knowledge...
AND the FACT is your claiming to have received the HOLY SPIRIT...
IS ALSO WITHOUT;
Hearing,
Following,
Trusting,
Believing,
Having received Faith
In Direct Contrast to Scripture.
Receiving the HOLY SPIRIT....IS PART of a Mans CONVERSION, that deals with the WHOLE of a MAN....body, soul, spirit.
You have this weird teaching....that you received the HOLY SPIRIT, without your knowledge, without Faith...
AND that you THEN have some drawn out process to receive Salvation...
That is not a Biblical Teaching that Applies to a man IN Christ.
You often appear to be oblivious the Jews were teaching Jews, and Jews WERE under the familiarity of THEIR LAWS...and that MANY of the Jews elected to REMAIN UNDER their LAW, (their law....not a Gentiles Law! ) "THER LAWS" HAS Zero application to a man RECEIVING SALVATION and QUICKENING....THROUGH Jesus...while still ALIVE in their flesh.
As you OFTEN BRAG about "your" church being so ANCIENT....it is obvious...by the things you say and scriptures you reference...you have zero sense of ability to determine proper applicability.
People like YOU simply refuse to believe this because it's a lot easier to believe in the fallacy of OSAS. You lack the faith to persevere.
LOL...
People like me LISTEN when the Word of God is SPEAKING TO US ABOUT US.
Unlike you....WHO thumbs through Scripture, picking this one and that one....and then standing on your self-proclaimed teaching soapbox, Wagging your tongue, Dictating with vile endeavors WHAT APPLIES TO OTHER PEOPLE, when they themselves have made no such claims.
OSAS is a NOT a Lie, Untruth, of fallacy...as you say, which all mean the same thing.
IF YOU have ADOPTED Jewish Law, that your Salvation is Received AT THE END of OF your Physical existance....AFTER faithfully executing the Juridsictional LAW of the JEWS, accomplishing WORKS "according to JEWISH LAWS", and AT the END of your physical existance BEING FOUND ACCEPTABLE TO the "GOD" to Receive the GIFT of SALVATION...
Then WHY PRETEND, you have ACCEPTED Jesus as the Christ Messiah and HIS gift of Salvation IS GIVEN A MAN "WHILE the man is STILL ALIVE IN HIS FLESH, YET Spiritualy DEAD, having been Crucified BODILY WITH Christ, and thus LIVES IN HIS HOLY risen Body?
Dude....I am NOT Jewish! I don't DO WORKS according to JEWISH LAW...with the HOPE I "WILL" receive Approval of God and receive His GIFT of SALVATION!
I am a Gentile....WHO Heard, Followed, Believed, and Willingly SUBMITTED to God...
THROUGH Christ the Lord Jesus.... AND FOR THAT Belief, I was Given Faith, and with that FAITH, I was PrEPARED TO COMMIT, and with that Preparation, I WILLINGLY Committed,
AND Because of MY Willing Commitment...
I was "ONCE and Forever given the GIFT of SALVATION"...BY and
THROUGH Christ thee Lord Jesus.
Apparently YOU are Oblivious....MANY MANY Jews DO NOT BELIEVE JESUS IS THEIR CHRIST MESSIAH....and MUST
THROUGH obedience to their LAW "during their physical LIFETIME" continually FOLLOW their law IN OBEDIENCE.
Jesus' JEWISH disciples were TEACHING Jews ABOUT Jesus the Christ....that THEY may trust to believe THEY COULD RECEIVE THEIR SALVATION>>>>THEN..BY GOING
THROUGH Jesus INSTEAD of
THROUGH their Jewish Law.
You teach like you the ENTIRE New Testament is all about YOU... a Gentile, and your Chruch.....
It isn't!! MUCH of the New Testament is DIRECTED TO JEWS, ABOUT JEWS, BY JEWS....Learning TO stop talking and LISTEN...TO the GOOD NEWS...OF PRESENT SALVATION is COME to THEM.
You are a Gentile...a SIDE LINE of the prominence of the New Testament....but you act like you ARE the center stage...you aren't.
There is much wisdom in listening and learning HOW TO RIGHTFULLY DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH....<--- and THAT when accomplished reveals TRUE Applicability....
Which you have repeatedly proven is NOT an accomplishment you have mastered.
Glory to God,
Taken