Timtofly
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This current age is the fulness of the Gentiles. It is not the 1,000 years mentioned in Revelation 20.The Age of God's Grace is a figurative 1000 year space of time, being open ended from the Day of Pentecost (actual second coming, without visual observation), UNTIL God the Father ALONE ends His Age of Grace. That will come to pass when "the mark of the beast" is implemented and mandated to all people, on a global scale.
2 Peter 3:8-9, Matthew 24:35-37.
"The Day of the Lord" begins on Jesus third coming in flaming fire from Heaven. Romans 9:28
That Day is a simultaneous event. Luke 17:28-30.
1. for the Redemption of all His Saints,
2. and the destruction of all the unsaved.
2 Thessalonians 1:7-10
The current age is also the age to come, where the kingdom of God is without observation in Paradise. Meaning local churches are not the kingdom, being observable, but they are ambassadors of that unseen kingdom to gather the Gentile harvest into that kingdom of Paradise. They in Paradise are Iike the angels, and they do not procreate. They do have permanent incorruptible physical bodies, per 2 Corinthians 5:1. Jesus told the thief on the Cross, today thou shalt be with Me, the Lord God, in Paradise. That was the start of the kingdom of God, along with all the OT redeemed removed from Abraham's bosom.
Those ambassadors on earth, the redeemed would no longer taste death, Abraham's bosom. They would leave this dead corruptible adamic flesh, that is only temporary, for that permanent incorruptible physical body in Paradise. No more graves for the OT at the Cross. No more graves for the NT redeemed. All the church as one body would be in Paradise waiting for the Second Coming to be glorified.
The Day of the Lord is after the Second Coming. As that is when it starts in flaming fire, cleansing the earth of all wickedness. But the process takes place over time in the Trumpets and Thunders of the final harvest per Matthew 13. And if necessary, Satan may get 42 months depending on if God deems it necessary. That is if some are left over after the final harvest who will choose to be beheaded instead of taking the mark.
All those post trib/final harvest people are those who have to choose beheading. Obviously they missed the Second Coming and the final harvest, but claim they will survive to have their heads chopped off in those final 42 months given to Satan in Revelation 13. All of Adam's dead flesh will be the grapes in the winepress at the end of the sounding of the 7th Trumpet. Revelation 14. No one will be alive at that point.
A resurrection starts the 1,000 year reign. So sin is not resurrected. Sin will be eliminated totally. Romans 5 shows sin passed upon all humanity even without the law. The Millennium will be righteousness passed upon on all humanity under the iron rod rule. No disobedience will be tolerated, nor natural.
Those in the Millennium will be born both physically and spiritually at conception. No longer needing a second birth by choice or faith. No one seems to grasp this concept that the earth will be restored to the condition prior to Adam's disobedience.
Augustine wrote volumes on the subject and all that modern humans can conclude from Augustine is the Amil denial of the 1,000 year reign of Christ as King on this restored earth?
Elijah and Moses were changed directly by God as the two witnesses, the olive trees of the OT, considered to be the representatives of the Law and Prophets. Telling us that God cannot change people when God deems it necessary, is just human opinion. For someone who is constantly requiring one to think spiritually, this sentiment about Moses and Elijah is furthest from the spiritual mind of Christ and only focusing on human failed understanding. Moses spent 40 days in the direct presence of God. God did not condescend to Moses' sinful condition. God changed Moses out of Adam's dead corruptible flesh to be able to commune directly with God. It is plausible that Elijah was Enoch who went to heaven before the Flood, and returned to earth on multiple occasions to act as a spiritual guide to Israel. God can indeed place sin in the world and remove sin at will. God can also change humans for His direct purpose. To place limits on God's sovereignty is meaningless. I am not sure why many try to explain away the spiritual aspect of life in the OT. It was way more real than western thought today, that has literally done away with any thing spiritual, and has turned into modern humanism.