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The Doctrine of OSAS

Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by justaname, May 12, 2013.

  1. KingJ

    KingJ New Member

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    Even the worst hardships imagineable for 70 years VS eternal bliss is still a free pass if we are pre selected for salvation.

    We mostly get lost when thinking of God's omniscience. That is because just like the question of how He came into existence, we actually cannot grasp it. All we can do is look at where the evidence points. The evidence points in the direction of God being as good as He is omniscient. The cross is evidence of limiting His omnipotence. Why can't He in some manner limit His omniscience? He is simply incapable of doing evil / being biased / partial to anyone. He is a sun burning with only what is good.

    He is as good as He is omniscient. Read 1 John 1:5 with Rom 9. We give thanks because this God we serve that can be very very evil, is actually not, but rather exceedingly good. His goodness exceeds what our minds can grasp. Now a kid can grasp partiality / favoritism.

    If Calvinism is true that guy that gets to heaven will always feel dirty and that guy that gets to hell, cheated.
     
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    KingJ New Member

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    I do not disagree with this ATP. Apart from the context insinuation by you. I am not raising an anti OSAS argument. We can both agree that if we did that, as saved people we should not still be doing that. So if we claim to be saved and are still doing that....
     
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    Who said I am not thankful? Salvation is a plane that leaves from the airport to heaven. We could not get to heaven any other way. The airport however is not hell.

    There are three environments for us and angels.1. heaven, 2. separation from God and then 3. hell.

    Now this is the last time I am going to say this. Jesus saves us from 2. Not 3. Not ever 3. Hence Calvinsim is 100% debunked.
     
  4. ATP

    ATP New Member

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    I'm glad we on the same page.

    But Jesus does save us from hell. I don't understand why you think He doesn't. He even gives us eternal life as a bonus.
     
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