and? she was a chosen vessel God used her to bring in the hrist seed. nothing more nothing less ..i been in carm .your views of mary is way off
I think you don't even understand epostle's views of Mary.
Your bigotry blinds you.
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and? she was a chosen vessel God used her to bring in the hrist seed. nothing more nothing less ..i been in carm .your views of mary is way off
lol wheres them scriptures at you said you would post i see none For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.none of what your posting is bible ..this is why i asked for scripture..your reply bigotry blinds me. if all you can do os this dont botherI think you don't even understand epostle's views of Mary.
Your bigotry blinds you.
tell ya what explain using scripture .I think you don't even understand epostle's views of Mary.
The teaching I received when I was catholic that if I did not go to confession, and sinned , I was
going to hell........ I sure am glad we now have a bible and read it..... and know the truth....
Your anti-Catholic prejudice is based solely on past negative experiences, and maybe you suffered spiritual abuse, and have never stopped blaming the Church. Some Christians growing up in dysfunctional families go to the extreme, and become atheists. Talk to a Christian parent whose kids are atheists. You will see for yourself what I say is true. It's usually caused by fatherlessness of some sort. The psychology of it is the same as your neurotic prejudice.
You don't have a religious beef with the Catholic Church. You have a psychological beef. If you think its just doctrinal issues, you have no way of explaining why thousands of Protestants, ministers and Bible college professors are becoming Catholic in increasing numbers. Is it because they don't know their Bible?
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lol wheres them scriptures at you said you would post i see none For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.none of what your posting is bible ..this is why i asked for scripture..your reply bigotry blinds me. if all you can do os this dont bother
tell ya what explain using scripture .
How could you post any Scriptures, since there is NOT A SINGLE VERSE in the Bible that speaks of Purgatory? Purgatory is a Catholic fiction to rake in the dollars. And it works.I didn't say I was going to post any scriptures.
But did you fall in love? No, you probably went through the motions. You give no credit for the seeds that were planted at that time. Because you find Jesus outside the walls of the Church, you automatically assume He isn't there. Mass and schools are secondary educators, parents are the primary educators. You base your "Catholic expertise" on skeletons, then wrongfully claim the Church is dead. When was the last time you saw an on fire parish with an active youth ministry, free services to the homeless, free marriage and financial counselling, Bible studies, the list goes on. You don't want the Church to grow because you're 70+ years old and refuse to grow up yourself. Anti-Catholicism is a convenient expression of anger, enabled by a culture of death that tries to rid the world of the Catholic Church.I went to mass 6 days a week !!!!! And I went to the school for 6 years..
How could you post any Scriptures, since there is NOT A SINGLE VERSE in the Bible that speaks of Purgatory? Purgatory is a Catholic fiction to rake in the dollars. And it works.
I didn't say I was going to post any scriptures.
And why are you not answering my post #1040? Too difficult?
carnal =fleshy without the spiritwhere do you get that carnal theory.? that's not even Bible every man/woman/child has to com the way of the cross
What does that mean?
Anything?
Did Moses or David come by the way of the cross?
they looked by faith for the finished works of the cross .o.t sacrifices was shadows of good things to come. today by faith we look back at the finished works of the cross moses and david both knew the cross would be coming.. .but to answer your first question on carnal theory ----i rest my case you need go visit the pope web page for answersDid Moses or David come by the way of the cross?
carnal =fleshy without the spirit they looked by faith for the finished works of the cross .o.t sacrifices was shadows of good things to come. today by faith we look back at the finished works of the cross moses and david both knew the cross would be coming.. .but to answer your first question on carnal theory ----i rest my case you need go visit the pope web page for answers
you posted nothing because the theory of purgatory is man made :I posted lots of scripture about Purgatory - posts 21,22 , 27
sureAny scriptures for that?
you posted nothing because the theory of purgatory is man made :
Purgatory: What is it?
According to Dictionary.com, purgatory is “a condition or place in which the souls of those dying...are purified...from sins.” Essentially, purgatory is part of the Catholic doctrine of faith where a “final purification” occurs in order to “achieve the holiness necessary to enter...heaven,” (Catechism of the Catholic Church, CCC 1030-31).
The famous theologian Augustine – considered a founding father of Christianity – advocated praying for the dead. He felt prayer removed the final traces of sin after a human passed away. According to Catholic Online, St. Augustine lead a life of drinking and sexual immorality. Could Augustine’s inner-guilt from his personal experiences with sin lead him to embrace the idea of purgatory? Perhaps so.
Does Scripture Support Purgatory?
The very popular Pope John Paul II, with the support of the Italian Vatican, published a second edition of the Catechism of the Catholic Church in 1997. It states, praying for the dead was necessary:
All who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven. (CCC 1030).
Devout Catholics also look to the book of 1 Corinthians to support their beliefs about purgatory.
“If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire,” (I Cor. 3:15). see works has NOTHING TO DO WITH SALVATION, WORKS FOLLOW SALVATION .
Matthew 25:35---“For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:”
this is the type works that will be judged by the fire. the person who dies in Christ dies under Grace our sins are forgiven we been cleansed by the blood . the doctrine of purgatory is made up as you can see
sure
1 Corinthians 3 New King James Version (NKJV)
Sectarianism Is Carnal
3 And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to behaving like mere men? 4 For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not carnal?
Romans 8:5-7 New King James Version (NKJV)
5 For carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.
Carnal
Of the flesh; denoting human nature.
For ye are yet CARNAL: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not CARNAL, and walk as men? ( 1 Corinthians 1:1
that help ?
your right i forgot it as not pope 101 theology .just like others when truth is posted you ignore it . start off with something elseYou are wasting my time.
you posted straw man material have a good dayI posted 4 pages of arguments and scripture and that is all you can come up with.
It's your excuse to try and belittle those who point out the fallacies of the Roman Church. It's not reality.And a Melkite Catholic is NOT a Roman Catholic.
And a Maronie Catholic is NOT a Roman Catholic.
And a Byzantine Catholic is NOT a Roman Catholic.
And a Coptic Catholic is NOT a Roman Catholic.
And a Alexandrian Catholic is NOT a Roman Catholic.
That's just the way it is . . .
its the only way they know you challenge them using scripture they result to belittling and insults . much like the J.W only know what they are taughtIt's your excuse to try and belittle those who point out the fallacies of the Roman Church. It's not reality.
But did you fall in love? No, you probably went through the motions. You give no credit for the seeds that were planted at that time. Because you find Jesus outside the walls of the Church, you automatically assume He isn't there. Mass and schools are secondary educators, parents are the primary educators. You base your "Catholic expertise" on skeletons, then wrongfully claim the Church is dead. When was the last time you saw an on fire parish with an active youth ministry, free services to the homeless, free marriage and financial counselling, Bible studies, the list goes on. You don't want the Church to grow because you're 70+ years old and refuse to grow up yourself. Anti-Catholicism is a convenient expression of anger, enabled by a culture of death that tries to rid the world of the Catholic Church.