Address the evidence above and stop avoiding the obvious. Your MO is avoidance. That is the only way you can sustain each argument. Because you have zero historic support, and zero biblical support for your claims, in every discussion, you now resort to Ai to reinforce your error. Why not admit, you have nothing?Hmmm---I just thought of something here in regards to what I initially said in the post of mine I am quoting above. Let's assume 2 scenarios.
1) the millennium precedes the 2nd coming
2) the millennium follows the 2nd coming
First let's assume 1) is the correct view, 2) isn't. What would all this mean in regards to satan being cast into the LOF? Even though, per this scenario, 2) is not the correct view, 2) still doesn't contradict the fact that satan is cast into the LOF after the millennium.
But look what happens per this other scenario. This time 2) is the correct view, 1) isn't. What would all this mean in regards to satan being cast into the LOF? It would mean 1) has satan being cast into the LOF before the millennium begins, thus contradicting that satan is cast into the LOF after the millennium. It would mean, per this scenario, that 1) = no view anyone on the planet past or present holds since no one believes satan is cast into the LOF before the millennium.
Yet if 2) is the correct view, view 1) contradicts that satan gets cast into the LOF after the millennium. But if view 1) is the correct view, view 2) even though wrong, per this scenario does not contradict that satan is cast into the LOF after the millennium. But if view 2) is the correct view, view 1), per this scenario, the same can't be said about it, that even though wrong, view 1) does not contradict that satan is cast into the LOF after the millennium, it does contradict that satan is cast into the LOF after the millennium.
Interesting how this works out. Regardless whether view 2) is the correct view or not, it never changes the fact that satan is cast into the LOF after the millennium. The same can't be said about view 1). It indeed changes the fact if 2) is the correct view, since this means view 1) is contradicting that satan is cast into the LOF after the millennium. Therefore, only view 2) can be the correct view since it never contradicts the fact satan is cast into the LOF after the millennium no matter what.
Now I'm starting to get it. Amils, such as @WPM are projecting nonsense on early Chiliasts that can only fit them not these Chiliasts. Amil is the only view that has satan cast into the LOF before the millennium if Premil is the correct view. Premil never has satan cast into the LOF before the millennium even if Amil is the correct view.
The following below is then what chatgpt concluded from what I submitted above, in the event what I submitted above is not entirely clear, though it should be to any thinking person. But just in case it wasn't entirely clear, chatgpt, in that case, should make it bit clearer.
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Chatgpt:
1. FORMAL SYLLOGISM
Here’s a way to express your argument as a tight logical syllogism. I’ll follow a classical deductive form, with major, minor, and conclusion, then develop it into a more comprehensive version.
Simple Syllogism (Core Logic)
Major Premise:
All views that place Satan’s casting into the Lake of Fire before the millennium contradict the plain sequence of Revelation 20.
Minor Premise:
If Premillennialism is correct, Amillennialism places Satan’s casting into the Lake of Fire before the millennium.
Conclusion:
Therefore, if Premillennialism is correct, Amillennialism contradicts the plain sequence of Revelation 20.
Expanded Syllogism (Stronger Argument)
Major Premise:
A valid eschatological model must maintain the truth that Satan is cast into the Lake of Fire after the millennium (Rev 20:7–10), under all interpretive conditions (whether it is ultimately true or not).
Minor Premise:
Premillennialism always maintains Satan's casting into the Lake of Fire after the millennium, regardless of whether Amillennialism is true.
Minor Premise 2:
Amillennialism maintains Satan’s casting into the Lake of Fire after the millennium only if it is true, but contradicts this truth if Premillennialism is correct (since Amil would then have LOF follow the Second Coming, before the literal millennium).
Conclusion:
Therefore, Premillennialism is the only model that preserves the biblical order of Satan’s final judgment under all conditions; Amillennialism risks contradiction if false.
This is a form of transcendental argument—you're not just arguing Premil is correct, but that only Premil avoids contradiction regardless of which model is true.
THEOLOGICAL CRITIQUE OF AMIL MISREADINGS OF EARLY PREMIL (CHILIAST) SOURCES
This critique targets the way some Amils misrepresent early church fathers.
Some Amillennial interpreters misrepresent early Chiliastic (Premillennial) beliefs by claiming they placed Satan’s final judgment (casting into the Lake of Fire) at the time of the Second Coming—an order that no known Chiliast or Premil has ever affirmed.
If Amil interpreters are claiming this, they are either:
Unintentionally anachronistic, reading later Amil theology into early texts
Or deliberately distorting the Chiliast order for polemical purposes
IV. Final Analysis
The only eschatological model that cannot be accused of violating the order of Rev. 20, regardless of which system is correct, is Premillennialism.
Any view (like Amil) that collapses the return of Christ and LOF casting into one moment becomes logically self-refuting if the millennium follows the Second Coming.
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The avoided posts above refute all this carnal reasoning.
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