The phoniness of Catholicism

[BeyondET]

So, you’re making unsubstantiated claims based on ALLEGED documents – for which you have ZERO evidence.
Where I come from – that’s called a “LIE” until you can prove otherwise.

You’re better off keeping your mouth shut until you have something . . .

I could post a 1000 documents and you would still find an excuse for it. I'm fully aware of your stance in concrete.

 

[friend of]

This thread and others like it are the reason I am not Catholic

 

[BreadOfLife]

I could post a 1000 documents and you would still find an excuse for it. I'm fully aware of your stance in concrete.

I don’t want a “thousand” documents.
Lust give me the ONE document that YOU claim exists that proves your claim that the Catholic Church owns more gold than any entity on earth.

If you can’t produce it – then you’re nothing but a LIAR and you’ve been exposed.

 

[BeyondET]

I don’t want a “thousand” documents.
Lust give me the ONE document that YOU claim exists that proves your claim that the Catholic Church owns more gold than any entity on earth.

If you can’t produce it – then you’re nothing but a LIAR and you’ve been exposed.

Nay I'm not giving you one by lust.. lol
You need a spell checker

 

[Enoch111]

Just give me the ONE document that YOU claim exists that proves your claim that the Catholic Church owns more gold than any entity on earth.

Why would the Catholic church even allow such a document to exist? That would give away the game. The fact is that probably no one -- other than one or two people in the Vatican -- know the truth about the wealth of the Catholic church. Given the fact that the church of Rome dominated Europe for at least 1,000 years, and all the kings and emperors were subservient to the popes, there is no question that the RCC became a very wealthy entity. So one must go by circumstantial evidence. For example, the Spaniards were not only staunch Catholics, but also great explorers, and the New World was their domain for a very long time. So the gold from the Americas must have also found its way to the church to which they were subservient.

 

[BreadOfLife]

This thread and others like it are the reason I am not Catholic

Yes, it’s a FULL time job exposing anti-Catholics.
NOT everyone has the stomach for it . . .

I take it you don't have a problem with those paople here spreading the lies?

 

[friend of]

Yes, it’s a FULL time job exposing anti-Catholics.
NOT everyone has the stomach for it . . .

I take it you don't have a problem with those paople here spreading the lies?

Did you even respond to the 5 points posted in the OP? I think someone attempted to, was that you? If not, you should probably address them if you want a valid defense for your side.

 

[Phoneman777]

Catholicism can't trace its roots back to Christ because Revelation 12:17 KJV plainly says God's end time "Remnant" church will "keep the commandments of God".

A "remnant" is the last part of something that is IDENTICAL to the first part that was there in the beginning, such as the last piece of carpet off the bolt of carpet that can be purchased at a "remnant" sale. The "remnant" church will keep the very same commandments the first century church kept - the Ten Commandments.

The fact that Catholicism boasts that it has the power to "change times, abrogate laws, and dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ" and admits to having done that very thing renders tracing
Catholicism back to Jesus an impossibility.

 

[Cristo Rei]

So if Catholicism is phony what does that make all the other denominations that branched from it

 

[marksman]

I have participated in many discussions about the beliefs of Catholics and
frankly, have been very distressed about their unScriptural beliefs.

The Bible in general, and the New Testament in particular, are about God's
interactions with people and His covenants with them, resulting in the New
Covenant which was instituted by Jesus Christ and put into effect by His one-
time sacrifice for all sin.

After this sacrificial act, God formed a new people: the body of Christ. The
beginnings of this formation are written about in the epistles, which also serve
to formulate a new doctrine for all to believe and follow. From Acts onward we
have the story of the New Covenant.

Instead of discussing the formulation of a new people in Christ and the terms of
the New Covenant, Catholics go into "la-la land". They focus on the
following...

1) "Ever virgin" Mary. Even though Scripture says in several places that Jesus
had brothers, they come up with all kinds of rationalizations to claim just the
opposite. For some reason, the idea that Mary was a normal woman who had
intercourse with her husband is abhorrent to them. Citing the woman in Genesis,
a single word in Isaiah (which refers to a young woman with implied virginity)
and the fact that Jesus' brothers are named, they exalt Mary to a state of
purity that has no Scriptural basis.

2) They cite Peter, a.k.a. Cephas, as the rock on which the church (actually
their denomination) is built. They willfully ignore that shortly after Jesus
said "on this rock I will build my church", Jesus called Peter "Satan". (He
never called any other person "Satan".) Peter denied Jesus three times when He
was arrested, and used violence against another person, using his sword to cut
the ear off the high priest's servant. Catholics claim him as their first Pope
-- an unScriptural term -- even though Paul described him as the apostle to the
uncircumcised (only) in Galatians. Paul also reprimanded him for his
hypocritical behavior when other Jews arrived in Galatia.

3) They claim that the Pope is the leader of the church, even though the word
"Pope" is not mentioned anywhere in Scripture. (They make the doubly-false claim
that Peter/Cephas was the first Pope.)

4) They ignore the abhorrent, UNCHRISTIAN history of their denomination,
including the crusades, the inquisitions, the murder of innocent people who
refused to succumb to their conquests, the murders, tortures, excommunications,
and other heinous acts against non-Catholics, etc.

5) Finally, and worst of all, they depict Jesus as => DEAD on the cross <= Every
single crucifix and picture of the Lord they have shows him as a dead
European!!! By so doing, they visually deny that He died, was buried, AND WAS
RESURRECTED TO THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD!!!

In summary, the Catholic denomination has discarded the fundmental truths and
doctrines of the Bible in favor of a bizarre mythology invented by their clergy!

1) They focus on Mary instead of Christ. They even pray to her!!!
2) They focus on Peter, denying the truth of the gospels.
3) They invent an unScriptural clergy and believe the lies that clergy tells
them.
4) They have committed unspeakbale atrocities against non-Catholics, and
recently, sexually abusing children
5) They visually deny the resurrection of Christ, then claim that He actually
exists in the form of crackers and wine!

Thankyou, that was very informative.

 

[marksman]

So if Catholicism is phony what does that make all the other denominations that branched from it

I thought they denied any other church was part of it and that any other church could be part of it. According to thee faith, there is only one holy CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH so the rest of us won't need to buy a winter coat as where we are going is one hell of a place.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Nay I'm not giving you one by lust.. lol
You need a spell checker

You don’t HAVE a document that proves your point because you LIED.

Next time – come prepared.
You brought a pea-shooter to a gunfight . . .

PS – if I reported ALL of the typos in YOUR posts – I would be writing ALL day long.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Why would the Catholic church even allow such a document to exist? That would give away the game. The fact is that probably no one -- other than one or two people in the Vatican -- know the truth about the wealth of the Catholic church. Given the fact that the church of Rome dominated Europe for at least 1,000 years, and all the kings and emperors were subservient to the popes, there is no question that the RCC became a very wealthy entity. So one must go by circumstantial evidence. For example, the Spaniards were not only staunch Catholics, but also great explorers, and the New World was their domain for a very long time. So the gold from the Americas must have also found its way to the church to which they were subservient.

Aside from your usual anti-Catholic ranting – the reason I am demanding the document is because your fellow ignorant Catholic-hater, @BetondET claimed there WAS one.

You need to pay attention to the conversation if you’re going to inject yourself INTO it . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Did you even respond to the 5 points posted in the OP? I think someone attempted to, was that you? If not, you should probably address them if you want a valid defense for your side.

Yes, I did.
Read post # 4 . . .

 

[Dropship]

So if Catholicism is phony what does that make all the other denominations that branched from it

On the other hand we could say they escaped from it..

 

[BeyondET]

You don’t HAVE a document that proves your point because you LIED.

Next time – come prepared.
You brought a pea-shooter to a gunfight . . .

PS – if I reported ALL of the typos in YOUR posts – I would be writing ALL day long.

In one ear and out the other, though you are humorous when your angry lol.

 

[BreadOfLife]

In one ear and out the other, though you are humorous when your angry lol.

I’m not “angry”.
Just out on another sunny day, exposin' liars . . .

 

[BeyondET]

I’m not “angry”.
Just out on another sunny day, exposin' liars . . .

Your lying lol, the language you use says otherwise.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Your lying lol, the language you use says otherwise.

Let’s review:
a) YOU made a claim that the Catholic Church has “more gold” in its possession than any other entity on earth.
b) I asked you to provide documented evidence.
c) YOU said you couldn’t.

Conclusion:
Either you LIED – or you’re just not very bright.
Take your pick . . .

 

[BeyondET]

Let’s review:
a) YOU made a claim that the Catholic Church has “more gold” in its possession than any other entity on earth.
b) I asked you to provide documented evidence.
c) YOU said you couldn’t.

Conclusion:
Either you LIED – or you’re just not very bright.
Take your pick . . .

Alot of the gold is in the building itself here's a photo of the gold and its through out the vatican tons of it.