The Resurrection is for all people (thank you Yeshua!)

[MatthewG]

Just sharing.

What people choose to think or believe doesn’t really reflect you as a human being, or anyone as a human being who can only know their own hearts (especially when pointed out by the biblical scriptures) and God who sees it fully.

God is the high and lofty one,

Who can compare themselves ever to him?

 

[MatthewG]

For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

 

[Earburner]

Blessed by God are the peacemakers! :)

KJV Matthew 5[9] Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
> Has anyone thought about that scripture through "the Mind of Christ", of which we have?

1. Blessed?? By whom? Themselves? Or are they blessed by God? If by God, are all Christians? Or is it simply meaning that Christ is alluding to Christians only, in that verse?
2. Everyone who makes peace with another, including between governments and countries, are the children of God??
3. Is it not true that all the unsaved are at "enmity [at war] with God", having no peace from God?
4. Is it not also true that Jesus came here to enable us to receive Peace with God, through faith in Him, by His shed blood? Therefore, how can any of the unsaved be the children of God, without repentance, or coming to the "Prince of Peace" Himself?
They CAN'T.

That verse is talking about Christians [the children of God], who are coming to the unsaved in the Name of Lord, holding forth out to them the Gospel of Christ, for the forgiveness of sins, so that they also can receive the Peace of God, between Him and themselves.
Matthew 23
[39] For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

We are the peacemakers of God, through Jesus.

 

[Earburner]

^ the following is also a similar situation of understanding by the Mind of Christ for meaning.
Matthew 5[5] Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Are all people who are "meek" going to inherit the earth? Of course not! Then who are the "meek" that Jesus is alluding to? You know the answer. Meekness is the fruit of the Holy Spirit.
Yes! Christians shall inherit the earth, and no one else will, just because they appear to be meek.

But.....which or what earth shall we inherit?
In and of the person of Jesus, what did He inherit, that was mortal, but now is immortal?
Gen.2[7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground [earth], and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

2Cor.4[7] But we have this [His] treasure [His Holy Spirit] IN earthen vessels [our mortal bodies], that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
Which is it, that is God's deepest desire?
1. To live ON the earth WITH His creation.
2. To live WITHIN the earthen bodies of His creation.

Surely, in any stage of the game, we aren't looking for peace on earth, are we?
Luke 2[13] And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, [14] Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, [God's] good will [news] toward men.

KJV-Matt.10[34] Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Luke.12[51] Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
Are those words from the Prince of Peace, diametrically opposed to what the world and some of the visible churches are attempting to achieve?
Of course they are! Jesus has come to establish peace IN EARTH between God and man, and not anything else.

 

[ChristisGod]

Just sharing.

What people choose to think or believe doesn’t really reflect you as a human being, or anyone as a human being who can only know their own hearts (especially when pointed out by the biblical scriptures) and God who sees it fully.

God is the high and lofty one,

Who can compare themselves ever to him?

As a man thinketh in his heart so is he. Proverbs 23:7

 

[CadyandZoe]

Yes indeed !

Yes, I'm seeing a confusion between decorum and fellowship. Decorum and etiquette are necessary among strangers, who need to work together. But an essential feature of Christian fellowship is what Paul called "speaking the truth in love."

Secondly, I am reminded of the Philosophical arts. Until recently, the one thing that every philosopher could agree about was that objective truth was real and determinable. Even if one philosopher disagreed with another philosopher, each man's writings were predicated on one unqualified reality: truth is so important that it is worth our time to share it with others.

If that is true among philosophers, it should be doubly true among the saints. Our faith is built on reason, facts, scriptures, miracles, witnesses, and especially the apostles and prophets. And just like the pioneers of the American West, truth pioneers (followers of Christ) help other pioneers navigate their way through the frontier of truth. Truth pioneers don't say, "each man is entitled to his own opinion"? Why? Because fools don't survive on the frontier. Wisdom is a matter of survival. We don't keep important truth from those we love; we share what we know because we know that fools and cowards will not survive into the next age.

(I didn't mean to preach a sermon.) :)

 

[CadyandZoe]

Just sharing.

What people choose to think or believe doesn’t really reflect you as a human being, or anyone as a human being who can only know their own hearts (especially when pointed out by the biblical scriptures) and God who sees it fully.

God is the high and lofty one,

Who can compare themselves ever to him?

What one chooses to think and believe says everything about the person.

 

[ChristisGod]

Yes, I'm seeing a confusion between decorum and fellowship. Decorum and etiquette are necessary among strangers, who need to work together. But an essential feature of Christian fellowship is what Paul called "speaking the truth in love."

Secondly, I am reminded of the Philosophical arts. Until recently, the one thing that every philosopher could agree about was that objective truth was real and determinable. Even if one philosopher disagreed with another philosopher, each man's writings were predicated on one unqualified reality: truth is so important that it is worth our time to share it with others.

If that is true among philosophers, it should be doubly true among the saints. Our faith is built on reason, facts, scriptures, miracles, witnesses, and especially the apostles and prophets. And just like the pioneers of the American West, truth pioneers (followers of Christ) help other pioneers navigate their way through the frontier of truth. Truth pioneers don't say, "each man is entitled to his own opinion"? Why? Because fools don't survive on the frontier. Wisdom is a matter of survival. We don't keep important truth from those we love; we share what we know because we know that fools and cowards will not survive into the next age.

(I didn't mean to preach a sermon.) :)

Excellent points !!!

 

[Waiting on him]

When you say transfiguration what brings to my mind @Earburner is the fullness of the Lord Yeshua, being with his Father in fulness showing the Lord Yeshua to be the Lord God Almighty.

Yeah, perhaps haven't gotten to that part of looking into about Jesus and his bodily resurrection: Other than I believe that it happened; though it is strange, like this:


Why is this wrote this way?


Why is this also wrote this way? The Lord and My God part I understand, but why did Thomas touch Jesus, here but Mary couldn't? Jesus also told Thomas not to doubt : but to believe.

If anyone has any insights I would like to know but please make it easy for me to read and understand if it is possible.

Thank you so much.

My question would be, what was unrecognizable about him?

 

[Waiting on him]

He remains in heaven forever because that is where he came from. He will never be a human again...he finished that role back in the first century....All of his elect will also remain in their spiritual state.

Where did Christ go to “prepare a place” for his disciples? Hint...it wasn’t earth. (John 14:1-3; 1 Peter 1:3-4)

Revelation 12:6 KJV
[6] And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
Do the JWs believe there is a wilderness in heaven?

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

@Earburner you post should give a clue as to where the old heaven was?

 

[Waiting on him]

Sorry Earburner, you mean the Elohim dont you?;) Jesus wasn't in existence for many thousands of years later!

It was the Elohim who said "let us make man in our image" Job 38:4 & Job 38:7

Let's not force the trinity on Genesis, it's bad enough to do so on the NT account.



It was your comment that this knowledge corrupted them which really isn't in the account - its the mean by which they tried to attain it, which is the offense.

I think you would agree that sin was not required to possess such knowledge. Could it be an expression of spiritual maturity and adulthood? It's clear Adam and Eve were innocent and immature and in no way could they comprehend experimentally the things that are good, and those things that are evil?

F2F

It’s also pretty clear that first century Saul had no concept of good and evil, what he saw as evil was good and what he saw as good was evil?

 

[MatthewG]

What one chooses to think and believe says everything about the person.

Hello CadyandZoe,

Can you explain more about what you mean here?

From my understanding there are only two types of people in the world, those who think about and add God into their life, and those who do not think about and do not add God into their life.

From also my understanding there are two types of Christians in this world, those who are Children of God, and those who walk by the spirit and are considered Sons or Daughters of God.

 

[MatthewG]

As a man thinketh in his heart so is he. Proverbs 23:7

Oh, never seen this one. Would this be about what other people thinks about other people though?

For example if a person on the street sees a person who is running away form the store thinking "That man running for some reason he probably stole something", does that make the man a thief?

Or is it on an individual level? If in my heart I see myself as a sinner, and I am a sinner, however also in my heart I realize that I am a redeemed human being through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Are both true?

As a man thinketh in his heart so is he - this seems like it can get very deep.

Would like to share an example with me to help my understanding cause perhaps I am wrong.

 

[MatthewG]

My question would be, what was unrecognizable about him?

Waiting on Him,

What are your thoughts about that? Was He created new in someway?

 

[face2face]

It’s also pretty clear that first century Saul had no concept of good and evil, what he saw as evil was good and what he saw as good was evil?

Sorry not sure what you mean here...

 

[Waiting on him]

Waiting on Him,

What are your thoughts about that? Was He created new in someway?

My thoughts would be, they only knew him after the flesh at this point.

 

[Waiting on him]

Sorry not sure what you mean here...

When did the knowledge of good and evil enter into the world?

 

[Waiting on him]

Tare the first six chapters of Genesis out of your Bible and throw the rest away, and you have the revelation of Jesus Christ.

 

[face2face]

When did the knowledge of good and evil enter into the world?

It's always been - any thought or mind which is in opposition to God is "the knowledge of good & evil". Two trees are symbolically provided for two choices: obedience or sin; life or death

 

[Waiting on him]

As a mater of fact tear out any one of your favorite stories out and throw the rest away and in some way you have the same story as all of it

the revelation of Jesus Christ
It’s a tell of two cities Cain is the flesh you
Able is the spiritual you
Esau is the flesh you Jacob/ Israel the spiritual you.
Saul is the flesh you Paul the spiritual you