The right to abort. The right to ask for the aborted to be adopted instead. These are the same thing!

[Gottservant]

As nice and religious as that sounds, it is not always possible for a host of reasons including the regulations and high adoption fees. As far as I know, if a woman has a child, she cannot take care of, the government will place them until they are adopted. It is not like they are turned out into the wild.

Yes but I am saying "it is a right" - can you imagine what it would be like if the Church stood up and exercised that right?

Surely this is the will of God!

 

[Instant]

Yes but I am saying "it is a right" - can you imagine what it would be like if the Church stood up and exercised that right?

Surely this is the will of God!

I think it is a wonderful thing to care enough to adopt a child, and if you save it from being killed, that is even better. I really think we need to streamline the adoption process to make it easier and more affordable with less red tape. I think you would see more couples willing to adopt if that happened.

 

[pleaseforgiveme]

1967 war was miraculously won by Israel,

miraculously won by Israel, I think not. no miracles

Israel won because the USA gave them the weapons to win.

The USA has wised up and will no longer proved the tools to murder anymore.
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[Jack]

miraculously won by Israel, I think not. no miracles

Israel won because the USA gave them the weapons to win.

The USA has wised up and will no longer proved the tools to murder anymore.
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TINY Israel was attacked by several Arab nations. Guess who won.

Amos 9
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them.
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.

Israel is back to stay.

 

[Jay Ross]

@Jack Amos 9 is set for a distant future time.

AMOS 9: - The Destruction of Israel

9:1 I saw the Lord standing by the altar, and He said:

"Strike the doorposts, that the thresholds may shake,​

And break them on the heads of them all.​

I will slay the last of them with the sword.​

He who flees from them shall not get away,​

And he who escapes from them shall not be delivered. ​

2 "Though they dig into hell, ​

From there My hand shall take them;​

Though they climb up to heaven,​

From there I will bring them down; ​

3 And though they hide themselves on top of Carmel,​

From there I will search and take them;​

Though they hide from My sight at the bottom of the sea,​

From there I will command the serpent, and it shall bite them; ​

4 Though they go into captivity before their enemies,​

From there I will command the sword,​

And it shall slay them.​

I will set My eyes on them for harm and not for good."​

5 The Lord God of hosts,​

He who touches the earth and it melts,​

And all who dwell there mourn;​

All of it shall swell like the River, ​

And subside like the River of Egypt.​

6 He who builds His layers in the sky,​

And has founded His strata in the earth;​

Who calls for the waters of the sea,​

And pours them out on the face of the earth — ​

The Lord is His name.​

7 "Are you not like the people of Ethiopia to Me,​

O children of Israel?" says the Lord.​

"Did I not bring up Israel from the land/country of Egypt,​

The Philistines from Caphtor,​

And the Syrians from Kir? ​

8 "Behold, the eyes of the Lord God are on the sinful kingdom,​

And I will destroy it from the face of the earth;​

Yet I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob,"​

Says the Lord.​

9 "For surely I will command,​

And will sift the house of Israel among all nations,​

As grain is sifted in a sieve;​

Yet not the smallest grain shall fall to the ground. ​

10 All the sinners of My people shall die by the sword,​

Who say, 'The calamity shall not overtake nor confront us.' ​

Israel Will Be Restored​

11 "On that day I will raise up​

The tabernacle of David, which has fallen down,​

And repair its damages;​

I will raise up its ruins,​

And rebuild it as in the days of old; ​

12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, ​

And all the Gentiles who are called by My name,"​

Says the Lord who does this thing.​

13 "Behold, the days are coming," says the Lord,​

"When the ploughman shall overtake the reaper,​

And the treader of grapes him who sows seed;​

The mountains shall drip with sweet wine,​

And all the hills shall flow with it. ​

14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel;​

They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them;​

They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them;​

They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them. ​

15 I will plant them in a fertile field,​

And no longer shall they be pulled up​

From the fertile field I have given them,"​

Says the Lord your God.​

​

Ah! Jack, the return of some of Abraham's descendants to the Land of Canaan in 1948 was a fulfilment of the prophecy found in Genesis 15:16 where God told Abraham that they would return in their own strength to the Land of Canaan, at the time that the iniquities of the Amorite people was not yet completed.

Christ's prophecy in Matthew 24:32 tells us when the end of the fourth age of the visitation of the father's iniquities will end. Paul also prophetically tells us that when the fullness with respect to time of the Gentiles' 2,300 years of trampling God's sanctuary and earthly hosts is completed, then after that time all of Israel will be saved.

At this point in time God has not set about gathering the Israelites to Himself yet. That is to begin in our near future, after which the Israelites will become part of God's Priestly kingdom scattered throughout all of the earth.

My sense is that you are trying to make the scriptures fit the story that you want to write for the Israelites at this present time, based on a poor contextual understanding of the scriptures.

Shalom

 

[Jack]

@Jack Amos 9 is set for a distant future time.

AMOS 9: - The Destruction of Israel

9:1 I saw the Lord standing by the altar, and He said:

"Strike the doorposts, that the thresholds may shake,​

And break them on the heads of them all.​

I will slay the last of them with the sword.​

He who flees from them shall not get away,​

And he who escapes from them shall not be delivered. ​

2 "Though they dig into hell, ​

From there My hand shall take them;​

Though they climb up to heaven,​

From there I will bring them down; ​

3 And though they hide themselves on top of Carmel,​

From there I will search and take them;​

Though they hide from My sight at the bottom of the sea,​

From there I will command the serpent, and it shall bite them; ​

4 Though they go into captivity before their enemies,​

From there I will command the sword,​

And it shall slay them.​

I will set My eyes on them for harm and not for good."​

5 The Lord God of hosts,​

He who touches the earth and it melts,​

And all who dwell there mourn;​

All of it shall swell like the River, ​

And subside like the River of Egypt.​

6 He who builds His layers in the sky,​

And has founded His strata in the earth;​

Who calls for the waters of the sea,​

And pours them out on the face of the earth — ​

The Lord is His name.​

7 "Are you not like the people of Ethiopia to Me,​

O children of Israel?" says the Lord.​

"Did I not bring up Israel from the land/country of Egypt,​

The Philistines from Caphtor,​

And the Syrians from Kir? ​

8 "Behold, the eyes of the Lord God are on the sinful kingdom,​

And I will destroy it from the face of the earth;​

Yet I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob,"​

Says the Lord.​

9 "For surely I will command,​

And will sift the house of Israel among all nations,​

As grain is sifted in a sieve;​

Yet not the smallest grain shall fall to the ground. ​

10 All the sinners of My people shall die by the sword,​

Who say, 'The calamity shall not overtake nor confront us.' ​

Israel Will Be Restored​

11 "On that day I will raise up​

The tabernacle of David, which has fallen down,​

And repair its damages;​

I will raise up its ruins,​

And rebuild it as in the days of old; ​

12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, ​

And all the Gentiles who are called by My name,"​

Says the Lord who does this thing.​

13 "Behold, the days are coming," says the Lord,​

"When the ploughman shall overtake the reaper,​

And the treader of grapes him who sows seed;​

The mountains shall drip with sweet wine,​

And all the hills shall flow with it. ​

14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel;​

They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them;​

They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them;​

They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them. ​

15 I will plant them in a fertile field,​

And no longer shall they be pulled up​

From the fertile field I have given them,"​

Says the Lord your God.​

​

Ah! Jack, the return of some of Abraham's descendants to the Land of Canaan in 1948 was a fulfilment of the prophecy found in Genesis 15:16 where God told Abraham that they would return in their own strength to the Land of Canaan, at the time that the iniquities of the Amorite people was not yet completed.

Christ's prophecy in Matthew 24:32 tells us when the end of the fourth age of the visitation of the father's iniquities will end. Paul also prophetically tells us that when the fullness with respect to time of the Gentiles' 2,300 years of trampling God's sanctuary and earthly hosts is completed, then after that time all of Israel will be saved.

At this point in time God has not set about gathering the Israelites to Himself yet. That is to begin in our near future, after which the Israelites will become part of God's Priestly kingdom scattered throughout all of the earth.

My sense is that you are trying to make the scriptures fit the story that you want to write for the Israelites at this present time, based on a poor contextual understanding of the scriptures.

Shalom

Sit back and watch God fight for Israel, again. Guess where Jesus will return.

 

[Jay Ross]

Sit back and watch God fight for Israel, again. Guess where Jesus will return.

Ah! @Jack when Satan and the four beasts and the little horn/False Prophet are imprisoned in the bottomless pit along with the judged kings of the earth in our near future, then God will gather all of Israel to Himself from around the earth and plant them in the fertile field of Christ found scattered throughout all of the earth, and there He will instruct them on the Religion of Christ, which will become the biggest mountain in all of the earth, that He, Christ, is the Son of God and that all who believe in Him will be given possession of all of the earth as was promised in the Abrahamic Covenant, entered into by God with Abraham before he had left Ur of the Chaldeans.

God is ensuring that the earth will have rest for 1,000 years from Satan and his cohorts when He judges the wicked fallen heavenly hosts and the Kings of the earth at Armageddon in our near future. Possibly within the next 20 to 25 years' time.

In the near future Satan and his heavenly cohorts along with the kings of the earth will make one last attempt to trample God's Sanctuary and His earthly Hosts, where, in the battle to do so, they will be judged, and both the judged heavenly hosts and the kings of the earth will be gathered together on the face of the earth to be imprisoned for many days, to await the time of their punishment, in the Bottomless pit.

During the little while period, after the Bottomless pit is unlocked after the passing of the 1,000 years, the battle will be between God and His heavenly Hosts and Satan, and his cohorts, and Christ will capture the beast and the false prophet and dispatch them into the Lake of Fire and shortly afterwards Satan will also be captured and dispatched into the Lake of Fire where the Beast and the False Prophet were also dispatched into.

Shortly irseal will become a blessing for all of the nations of the earth.

Shalom

 

[Gottservant]

The poll looks promising.

I am looking forward to the Day, that I can adopt in Heaven!