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Instead of rejecting what an other believes...AND injecting false claims for others...

What not speak to your own beliefs?

Do you believe there IS a 7 yr Tribulation Period?
There will be a future 3.5 year tribulation, that begins when the beast is revealed in Jerusalem proclaiming to be Messiah God

No place in scripture is a 7 year tribulation seen, more dispensationalism fairy tales
 
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That's correct, the church is gathered at the second coming in the rapture,then God's cup of wrath is poured upon the wicked

When He cometh...(ie your second coming)...ALL of the kindreds of earth (YOU, upon the Earth). shall see Him... and WAIL.

Wail is a prolonged cry of pain, grief, ANGER....
Why will you be on Earth looking up, seeing the Lord coming and WAIL?

Rev 1:
[7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
 

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Once again, nothing in scripture teaches the saved believer on earth during the tribulation will suffer God's wrath

Why does Scripture speak of an ESCAPE of Gods Wrath?
 

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There will be a future 3.5 year tribulation, that begins when the beast is revealed in Jerusalem proclaiming to be Messiah God

No place in scripture is a 7 year tribulation seen, more dispensationalism fairy tales

Can’t help yourself eh? You making up false accusations is simply a reflection on you as unworthy to trust what you say, because you are simply an ATTACKER, rather than having your own BELIEFS revealed as your model OF BELIEF.
 

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Why are you NOT WORTHY to escape Gods Wrath?


Luke 21
[36] Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
 

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II Thessalonians 2:1, 2 "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter, as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand."

Paul is telling you to not be taken in by any means, and they will use every trick in the book to get you to join them.

II Thessalonians 2:3 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there be a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition,"

Did you get that? Before Jesus comes, there will be a massive falling away , and Satan, who is the man of sin, also called the son of perdition, will actually sit in the his temple in Jerusalem, and the entire world will believe it.

II Thessalonians 2:4 "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the Temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

It is Satan who opposeth and exalteth himself above our Heavenly Father. Satan will demand that you worship him, and he will sit in his temple in Jerusalem and do and say the things to try and make you believe it. He will try to appear as you think Jesus ought to appear. I hope that in that day when Satan arrives, instead of being tempted in worshipping him, that you would find him the abomination that he is. That is why you will have your gospel armor on and in place to make a stand and be ready for those spiritual battles.

Some people are so biblically illiterate that they will try to tell you that this 36th verse is all about the rapture theory. But it doesn't say that, but the Greek is very specific, "That you stand before Christ at the judgment." You stand before Christ, after these things have come to pass. Then you will be judged by what you did while Satan was in the temple pretending to be God. Did you go to Satan and bow to him, or did you stand your ground? Be prepared to speak up when their lies and deceit are spoken to you. So now stop and think for a moment, why do you put your gospel armor on in the first place? You put on the gospel armor for the sole purpose of making a stand and defending yourself from those fiery darts of Satan's lies. Take the time an study Ephesians 6:10-20. Jesus is telling you to ask Father, pray for the wisdom so that you can be accountable on that day of Jesus' return.
 
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Once again, nothing in scripture teaches the saved believer on earth during the tribulation will suffer God's wrath

There ARE no saved BELIEVERS on Earth...not today, not during the Trib.

You SHOULD learn what words MEAN!
Anyone can HEAR and BELIEVE....whoop, whoop.
Anyone can HEAR, BELIEVE....then NOT BELIEVE!

Did you not Learn that Lesson IN SCRIPTURE?
Judas followed Jesus, walked with Jesus, then LEFT Jesus.
Peter followed Jesus, walked with Jesus, then OPENLY DENIED Jesus.

BELIEVERS? Believers are wishy washy. Vacillators....believe, deny, believe, follow, believe, doubt........
SOUND LIKE a COMMITMENT to YOU?

Should the Tribulation BEGIN tomorrow.....and YOU (a believer), BE upon the Earth....HOW would YOU not suffer Gods Wrath coming down from Heaven?
 

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Why are you NOT WORTHY to escape Gods Wrath?

You will not be worthy if you do not:

“…take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.” (Luke 21:34)

So I’ll be watching to be accounted worthy. Pre-tribbers will be in shock and may not be counted worthy.
 

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Why as a Christian are you afraid of His wrath?

You could be standing in the middle of a billion non believers and not one hair on your head will be touched

No.
The terms, believer, Christian, do not SAVE a man from Gods Wrath.

Tribulation is CHAOS, distress.
Every day, men who profess Belief in God, men who profess Conversion IN Christ...ARE routinely subject to the persecution of OTHER men upon the Earth.

Gods Tribulation is CHAOS, distress.
It is precisely persecution of men UPON the Earth sent BY GOD!

Is there something in Scripture that tells you...when God causes Mountains to come tumbling down, the rocks ONLY hit and crush “non believers” ?

In Gods FIRST TRIBULATION....Was Noah left upon the Earth to suffer Gods Wrath?
 

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Belief in this rapture will lead one straight to satan.

Scripture says the whole world will be deceived and since un believers are already deceived only a Christian can be ,that's the falling away Paul spoke of .
 

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One thing is a fact, God's escape isnt a pre-trib rapture of the church to heaven

A supposed FACT...supported by what source?

Why do you avoid answering my questions?
 

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Why as a Christian are you afraid of His wrath?

You could be standing in the middle of a billion non believers and not one hair on your head will be touched
Exactly!

Plagues fell upon the Egyptians, the land of Goshen was protected

How many of the Hebrew children died at the passover, none!

Hebrew 13:8KJV
8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
 

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No.
The terms, believer, Christian, do not SAVE a man from Gods Wrath.

Tribulation is CHAOS, distress.
Every day, men who profess Belief in God, men who profess Conversion IN Christ...ARE routinely subject to the persecution of OTHER men upon the Earth.

Gods Tribulation is CHAOS, distress.
It is precisely persecution of men UPON the Earth sent BY GOD!

Is there something in Scripture that tells you...when God causes Mountains to come tumbling down, the rocks ONLY hit and crush “non believers” ?

In Gods FIRST TRIBULATION....Was Noah left upon the Earth to suffer Gods Wrath?

Were the Israelites raptured during the plagues ? Oh and Noah was on the earth during the flood .
 
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Exactly!

Plagues fell upon the Egyptians, the land of Goshen was protected

How many of the Hebrew children died at the passover, none!

When you were a BABE and crawled around on the floor, and then when you became an ADULT did you continue to crawl around on the floor?

You telling me what applied to THE HEBREWS is IRRELEVANT since Gods OFFERING of Salvation Was SENT to EARTH Thousands of years Later.

Hebrew 13:8KJV
8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

I am well aware of Jesus’ status. What does that have to do with the Hebrews thousands of years earlier, WHO knew nothing of Jesus?

Try to stay in content.
 

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Gen 1:
[10] And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

No one was UPON dry land......God was DESTROYING the DRY LAND, with WATER!
 
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