The soon coming rapture?

[Taken]

No place in scripture does it teach of a pre-trib rapture as you claim

What Scripture does teach:
Is who is not appointed to Wrath.
His Wrath begins with the Opening of the Seals.
The Earth shall be destroyed again, those not lifted up off the face of the Earth (as in Noah’s day), shall suffer Wrath.

 

[James Macbeth]

Just going by the historical record. You can make up your own history if you are so inclined.

Saint St Augustine:
-It is Not Impossible that Some Believers May Pass Through a Purgatorial Fire in the Future Life.
And it is not impossible that something of the same kind may take place even after this life. It is a matter that may be inquired into, and either ascertained or left doubtful, whether some believers shall pass through a kind of purgatorial fire, and in proportion as they have loved with more or less devotion the goods that perish, be less or more quickly delivered from it.
(S. Augustine, Enchiridion on Faith, Hope & Love, Chapter 69)

Written about 400AD.

Tertullian:
“A woman, after the death of her husband . . . prays for his soul and asks that he may, while waiting, find rest; and that he may share in the first resurrection. And each year, on the anniversary of his death, she offers the sacrifice”
(Monogamy 10:1–2)

Written about 216AD.

Council of Florence:
Latin, Greek, Coptic, Ethiopian delegates, agreed on many things, one being the doctrine of Purgatory.

 

[Timtofly]

Saint St Augustine:
-It is Not Impossible that Some Believers May Pass Through a Purgatorial Fire in the Future Life.
And it is not impossible that something of the same kind may take place even after this life. It is a matter that may be inquired into, and either ascertained or left doubtful, whether some believers shall pass through a kind of purgatorial fire, and in proportion as they have loved with more or less devotion the goods that perish, be less or more quickly delivered from it.
(S. Augustine, Enchiridion on Faith, Hope & Love, Chapter 69)

Written about 400AD.

Tertullian:
“A woman, after the death of her husband . . . prays for his soul and asks that he may, while waiting, find rest; and that he may share in the first resurrection. And each year, on the anniversary of his death, she offers the sacrifice”
(Monogamy 10:1–2)

Written about 216AD.

Still not a defined place until around 1200AD. Stephen went immediately to the throne of God. There is no waiting. Paul said in 2 Corinthians 5: To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Any other teaching is merely heretical and quite frankly obnoxious, declaring the Cross null and void.

 

[James Macbeth]

Still not a defined place until around 1200AD. Stephen went immediately to the throne of God. There is no waiting. Paul said in 2 Corinthians 5: To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Any other teaching is merely heretical and quite frankly obnoxious, declaring the Cross null and void.

And when was the holy Trinity defined?

 

[Timtofly]

And when was the holy Trinity defined?

Genesis 1:1-3

 

[James Macbeth]

Genesis 1:1-3

Well Purgatory is also in the Bible, based on your method.

 

[Timtofly]

Well Purgatory is also in the Bible, based on your method.

Do you spell it "sheol" then?

 

[James Macbeth]

Do you spell it "sheol" then?

Sheol is were the Jews, before Christ, went.

The Evil into Hell, but the righteous into limbus patrum, Limbo of the Patriarchs, it is in Hell, at the gates, but not in it.

Apostles creed:
And he descended into Hell, and on the third day resurrected.

This is known as the
Harrowing of Hell

 

[Timtofly]

Sheol is were the Jews, before Christ, went.

Abraham was not a Jew. The wicked went to sheol. The redeemed went to Abraham's bosom. Jews went to either place, depending on their rejection of the Atonement. Read Hebrews 11. There was still faith in the OT.

 

[James Macbeth]

Abraham was not a Jew. The wicked went to sheol. The redeemed went to Abraham's bosom. Jews went to either place, depending on their rejection of the Atonement. Read Hebrews 11. There was still faith in the OT.

Father Abraham was a Hebrew,
Gen 14:13
Then one who had escaped came and told Abram the Hebrew, who was living by the oaksa of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol and of Aner.

Yes I forgot about Abraham's bosom, but only a few went there.

Most went to the gates of Hell, but did not enter it.

What language do the Jews speak, Hebrew.

 

[Timtofly]

Father Abraham was a Hebrew,
Gen 14:13
Then one who had escaped came and told Abram the Hebrew, who was living by the oaksa of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol and of Aner.

Yes I forgot about Abraham's bosom, but only a few went there.

Most went to the gates of Hell, but did not enter it.

What language do the Jews speak, Hebrew.

Jews are Hebrews. Abraham was not a Jew.

 

[teamventure]

The rapture is imminent.
Could be tommorrow.

 

[James Macbeth]

Jews are Hebrews. Abraham was not a Jew.

The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Jesus was a Jew and a direct descendant of Abraham...

What flavored crack are you smoking?

 

[Timtofly]

The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Jesus was a Jew and a direct descendant of Abraham...

What flavored crack are you smoking?

Look up the definition of Jew and get back with me. You claim Purgatory was a noun in the first century and you don't even know the definition of the word Jew?

 

[James Macbeth]

Look up the definition of Jew and get back with me. You claim Purgatory was a noun in the first century and you don't even know the definition of the word Jew?

That's like saying what's the definition of the word Mexican...

 

[James Macbeth]

Look up the definition of Jew and get back with me. You claim Purgatory was a noun in the first century and you don't even know the definition of the word Jew?

In Jewish tradition, Abraham is called Avraham Avinu (אברהם אבינו), "our father Abraham," signifying that he is both the biological progenitor of the Jews and the father of Judaism, the first Jew.

Ok I did it, your not going to be happy...

 

[Timtofly]

In Jewish tradition, Abraham is called Avraham Avinu (אברהם אבינו), "our father Abraham," signifying that he is both the biological progenitor of the Jews and the father of Judaism, the first Jew.

Ok I did it, your not going to be happy...

No, that is the definition of Abraham.

 

[No Pre-TB]

If everyone thought as you, no one would be preparing for the bridegroom. He is coming when you think not. The fig tree has two harvests. Gods feast days have two harvest feasts. He is coming more than once.

People do prepare for Christ, but the garbage preached by many on this site causes them to eat food not from his table.

 

[No Pre-TB]

Paul said in 2 Corinthians 5: To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

Wrong! Paul did not say absent from the body = immediately with Christ. He said, he’d rather be absent from the body and instead be present with the Lord. Willing to want one over the other is not the same as saying one equals the other immediately upon death.
We all want to be with Christ. In that, we all would rather be absent from our body and rather be with him. Every Christian wants that, but that idea we all share doesn’t translate to upon death = immediately in heaven. Reread it again.

Edit: For context, I’ll post the verse below:
8We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

 

[The Light]

People do prepare for Christ, but the garbage preached by many on this site causes them to eat food not from his table.

Yeah, I know. Lots of blindness and little understanding of the Word of God. Many think they have replaced Israel.