"The WAY" = Christianity?

[101G]

Do I think Jesus taught them about belief in his death, burial and resurrection with no need for works in order to gain salvation (1 Cor 15:1-4)? No, I don't think that.

This woman at the well, unlike the woman he referred to a dog - was a despised Samaritan. A schism within the Jewish line - note that this Samaritan woman identifies herself as a child of the 12-tribes as she talks with Jesus at Jacob's well. The same well that sustained Jacob, his family and cattle for many years - sustained with water....low and behold, living water, just like Jesus. He chose that well and that woman for a purpose:

John 4:12
(KJV Strong's)
12 -- Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?

So was she fully out of bounds....a decedent of Jacob...I don't think so.

but DAH, not saying that you're right or wrong, but didn't the disciple was taught his death bural and resurrection and they went back to fishing?

it was only when he returned in Spirit on Pentecost that they started to spread the word because of him in them. not because of themselves but him in them.


PCY.

 

[DAH]

but DAH, not saying that you're right or wrong, but didn't the disciple was taught his death bural and resurrection and they went back to fishing?

it was only when he returned in Spirit on Pentecost that they started to spread the word because of him in them. not because of themselves but him in them.


PCY.

Jews received the Holy Ghost as Pentecost, not gentiles. Jews spread the Gospel of the Kingdom as directed by Jesus - Repent, be baptized for remission of sins...keep the law. The 12 did NOT preach the cross....that's why there's two gospels in the same verse in Galatians 2:7

Galatians 2:7-8
(KJV Strong's)
7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; 8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles

The Gospels of Circumcision and Uncircumcision

The gospel of the circumcision is seen as the same as the gospel of the kingdom, and the gospel of the uncircumcision the same as the gospel of the grace of God.

While they have similarities the qualifiers are intended to emphasize their distinction, especially when they are contrasted as in Galatians 2:7.

Both of these gospels explain the channel through which God’s blessings come.

The gospel of the circumcision concerns the promise made to the circumcision that through them the world would be blessed. The emphasis is on “through them”, or as the prophets said it “in thy seed”, the circumcised seed (Gen 22:17-18).

This is the covenant given to Abraham concerning his circumcised seed. The circumcision was promised to be God’s channel of blessing to the world (all the nations). It would be fulfilled among the circumcision in Christ, the true sons of Abraham according to prophecy...note, singular seed (one / Christ).

The gospel of the uncircumcision concerns the good news of how uncircumcised people can receive blessings apart from the channel of Israel and their circumcised covenant promises.

The good news to the uncircumcision is that according to the mystery of Christ, you did not need a covenant to receive God’s blessings.

“How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision.” – Romans 4:10

“For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;” – Ephesians 2:14

“For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.” – Galatians 6:15

 

[101G]

Jews received the Holy Ghost as Pentecost, not gentiles. Jews spread the Gospel of the Kingdom as directed by Jesus - Repent, be baptized for remission of sins...keep the law. The 12 did NOT preach the cross....that's why there's two gospels in the same verse in Galatians 2:7

but was not this already preached without LAW? scripture,

Micah 6:8 "He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?". was this not in effect? let's check the record.

Deuteronomy 10:12 "And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul".

and then you said,

The Gospels of Circumcision and Uncircumcision

No such thing was they not told to circumcise their hearts in the OT.

Deuteronomy 10:13 "To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?

Deuteronomy 10:14 "Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD'S thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is.

Deuteronomy 10:15 "Only the LORD had a delight in thy fathers to love them, and he chose their seed after them, even you above all people, as it is this day.

Deuteronomy 10:16 "Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.

see this was required already.

The good news to the uncircumcision is that according to the mystery of Christ, you did not need a covenant to receive God’s blessings.

we need a TESTAMENT for what he has already done for us. which is based on BELIEF, through or by FAITH.

PCY

 

[bbyrd009]

was not Ananias and Sapphira thieves?

no, clearly not imo, this was even discussed in the text

his wife witness to him in a lie. well I believe that answers Ananias and Sapphira

well c'mon 101, you have just avoided the issue of having no contemporary analog for this literally "dropping dead" imo

 

[bbyrd009]

So was she fully out of bounds....a decedent of Jacob...I don't think so.

well then, Scripture is wrong there?
Why then would Christ have stayed 2 more days?
I asked this, and i get a redux on the woman, why?

 

[amadeus]

The Samaritans were apparently a mixture of the remnant of the poor descendants of Jacob not carried away by Assyrians and the miscellaneous non-Hebrew peoples settled into the land by the Assyrians. The newcomers did not know God and lions went in among them causing trouble. The Assyrians sent Aaronic priests back to Samaria to teach them the law of Moses. From then they worshipped both the Lord and their own pagan gods. [Primary reference is II Kings chapter 7.]

The woman at the well who met Jesus knew something of her heritage which according to her included Jacob. The low esteem in which the other Hebrews held the Samaritans would be because the Samaritans had defiled themselves both in blood [intermarriage with Gentiles] and religion [worship of gods in addition to Jehovah].