"There are no more...Prophets??"

[ScottA]

Every person claiming to be either a messiah, an apostle, or a prophet since the close of the canon of Scripture (with Revelation as the final book) has turned out to be a false prophet. So you are absolutely correct. There are no more apostles and prophets since they are now all embedded in Scripture. The apostle John was the last apostle-prophet.

Exactly.

@Enoch111
@Christophany

I didn't want to derail the "What is Revival" thread, but this needs to be clarified.

Now, I get it if you are of the opinion that Paul spoke here referring only to the last apostles, even though that is not the context of the passage, for the context is as stated: “When He ascended on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts to men”, not excluding any who were or would be "captive":

Ephesians 4:11-16​

And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.​

...But here in Revelation, in order for there to be "no more...prophets", there would also have to be no more testimony of Jesus--which simply isn't true (either):

Revelation 19:10​

And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”​

 

[GISMYS_7]

Acts 2:17
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:​

 

[Truth7t7]

@Enoch111
@Christophany

I didn't want to derail the "What is Revival" thread, but this needs to be clarified.

Now, I get it if you are of the opinion that Paul spoke here referring only to the last apostles, even though that is not the context of the passage, for the context is as stated: “When He ascended on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts to men”, not excluding any who were or would be "captive":

Ephesians 4:11-16​

And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.​

...But here in Revelation, in order for there to be "no more...prophets", there would also have to be no more testimony of Jesus--which simply isn't true (either):

Revelation 19:10​

And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”​

Do you claim to be a prophet of God?

 

[ChristisGod]

Do you claim to be a prophet of God?

They don’t know the biblical definition of a prophet

 

[ScottA]

Do you claim to be a prophet of God?

This is not about me.

But your asking is indeed about you.

 

[ScottA]

They don’t know the biblical definition of a prophet

נָבִיא nâbîyʼ, naw-bee'; from H5012; a prophet or (generally) inspired man:—prophecy, that prophesy, prophet.

προφήτης prophḗtēs, prof-ay'-tace; from a compound of G4253 and G5346; a foreteller ("prophet"); by analogy, an inspired speaker; by extension, a poet:—prophet.

 

[Enoch111]

...But here in Revelation, in order for there to be "no more...prophets", there would also have to be no more testimony of Jesus--which simply isn't true (either):

Well "the testimony of Jesus" is right there in Revelation. This is the REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST. So what more do you want? And John made it clear in that book that all genuine prophecy had come to an end. In fact there is no more need for prophecy. It is all there in Scripture.

 

[ChristisGod]

Well "the testimony of Jesus" is right there in Revelation. This is the REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST. So what more do you want? And John made it clear in that book that all genuine prophecy had come to an end. In fact there is no more need for prophecy. It is all there in Scripture.

Ditto. For those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.

 

[ChristisGod]

This is not about me.

But your asking is indeed about you.

was that a yes , a no ,a dodge or pleading the 5th ?

 

[ScottA]

Well "the testimony of Jesus" is right there in Revelation. This is the REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST. So what more do you want? And John made it clear in that book that all genuine prophecy had come to an end. In fact there is no more need for prophecy. It is all there in Scripture.

What are you referring to in saying that "John made it clear in that book that all genuine prophecy had come to an end?"

 

[ScottA]

was that a yes , a no ,a dodge or pleading the 5th ?

It was an answer due a scoffer.

 

[Enoch111]

What are you referring to in saying that "John made it clear in that book that all genuine prophecy had come to an end?"

Please see the last chapter. Nothing more to be added.

 

[strepho]

The last prophet was John Baptist and Jesus. Ephesians chapter 4:11. Their are different offices and functions for servants of God. James chapter 1:1. My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. The word masters means = Teachers. In this last generation. It's pastors or teachers or evangelists. I documented this.

 

[Patrick1966]

See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant,

I actually find this humorous. I can envision the angel cringing and looking around to see if anyone else is watching before admonishing John.

 

[GTW27]

Please see the last chapter. Nothing more to be added.

I warn every one who hears the words of the prophesy of this book; if any one adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to his servants what must soon take place; and He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, who bore witness to The Word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw. Blessed is he who reads aloud the words of the prophesy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written therein, for the time is near.

"Please see the last chapter. Nothing more to be added" To the words of the prophecy of this book(The Book of revelation) nor are they to take away from the words of the prophecy of this book(The book of revelation) "This book" is clearly defined by the tree of life and the holy city which is described in Chapter 22 of the book of revelation.
Some people think the book here refers to the Bible but it actually refers to the book of revelation and the prophecy contained there in.
Blessings.

 

[Space_Karen]

Last of the great biblical prophets.

 

[Enoch111]

Some people think the book here refers to the Bible but it actually refers to the book of revelation and the prophecy contained there in.

Well since Revelation is the FINAL book of the Bible, it in fact refers to the Bible and all genuine prophecies. Why would any other prophecies be necessary when that is how John CLOSED the Bible?

 

[Truth7t7]

It was an answer due a scoffer.

A Scoffer?

Do you claim to be a prophet of God?

 

[Truth7t7]

Well since Revelation is the FINAL book of the Bible, it in fact refers to the Bible and all genuine prophecies. Why would any other prophecies be necessary when that is how John CLOSED the Bible?

2 Timothy 3:16-16KJV
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

 

[Johann]

When He ascended on high

This book

4), "And gave gifts unto men" (edoken domata tois anthropois) "And he gave gifts to men." The dispensing of charismatic gifts to men in the church began according to promise, on the day of Pentecost and lasted only until the Bible was completed and became man's complete or perfect rule of faith in practice, Joh_14:17-18; Joh_16:7-11; Act_2:1-4; 1Co_12:1-27; 1Co_13:13; Jas_1:25.
1) “And if any man shall take away," (kai ean tis aphele) "And if anyone takes away," scissors, excises, cuts away, denies, or rejects the book, the message or testimony, none other exists to guide to glory. "Don't change it, just let it alone."

2) "From the words of the book of this prophecy," (apo ton logon tou bibliou tes propheteias tautes) "From the words of the scroll of this prophecy," the message cut short, compromised, leaves no other hope, no other Redeemer; It must be accepted with the gospel, as is, or there is no hope, 1Co_15:11-20; Gal_1:6-9.

3) "God shall take away," (aphelei ho theos) "God will take away or remove;” his holy Spirit works in connection with the Word of God, rightly divided, apart from which there can be no name entered the book of eternal life and no entrance into the Holy City, the bride, the Lamb's wife, the Church, Mat_28:18-20.

4) "His part out of the book of life," (to meros autou apo tou ksulou tes zoes) "His part (or right, privilege) from the tree of life;” for as there is no true gospel without the resurrection of the dead, (1Co_15:11-18), there is no safe guide to glory apart from the Word of God, as it is, 2Ti_3:16-17.

Deu_4:2; Deu_12:32. Pro_30:5, Pro_30:6. Gal_1:1, Gal_1:8.