Really? Zech.14:16-19 makes no mention that those are people who have once died and are resurrected. It is speaking of everyone who is left, of all the nations that came against Jerusalem. Left from what? Why don't we just read a few earlier verses and see?....vs.12.." And this shall be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet...(etc.)" So people are going to die. But not everyone. Vs.14 speaks of those who are left. Left what? Alive!! No resurrection mentioned.
Just because the Zech.14 doesn't go into the detail about all on earth being changed on the day of The Lord like 1 Cor.15:48-53 does, and other references like Isaiah 25, that doesn't mean some will still be in a flesh type body of 'corruption' after Christ's coming. Afterall, you still have failed to prove the John 5:28-29 Scripture is NOT about the time of Christ's coming linked to 1 Thess.4:16-17. Moreover, the "second death" isn't about the death of the flesh body as you yourself have said. And the popular interpretation of Rev.20:5 about the 'dead' wicked is that they aren't even resurrected until the end of the thousand years, an idea you yourself put forth here in your post #95. So it's obvious you've got a conflict going on about this matter, though you may not be willing to admit it.
But the outer darkness can be explained that these are they whom have died and are awaiting the resurrection to judgment. They are in Hades. (the body can be killed but not the soul, in the first death..Math.10:28) People are there right now...alive, but not resurrected. They are incarcerated as it were. In outer darkness. I still have yet to see the proof that the unjust will be bodily resurrected to a second chance. The order is clear. It is appointed to men to die once, and after that, the judgment. No second chance in that equation.
assuming of course, that I am promoting a doctrine I have been taught by anyone.
If you'll actually read the Matthew 8 Scripture as written, you'll discover the time when the rebellious of "the children of the kingdom" are cast to the "outer darkness" is when many will come from the east and west to sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the Kingdom of Heaven. In the wedding feast example of Matt.22, one of the unjust is trying to sneak into the wedding feast and is discovered not having on a wedding garment, and is then cast to the "outer darkness". That's Millennium timing.
What this is about is how in the heavenly dimension right now there is a place of separation for the unjust apart from the just, like Jesus showed in the story of Lazarus and the rich man. And when Christ returns to gather His Church, that type of separation will continue to exist, but instead it will be upon the earth. The Rev.22:14-15 reveals the outer darkness will continue on earth, but will exist outside the gates of the holy city that will be on earth for Christ's thousand years reign. In Rev.20:7-9 this is also revealed with the nations outside the "camp of the saints" and "beloved city".
In 1 Cor.15 when Apostle Paul revealed TWO required changes in order to have Eternal Life through Christ Jesus, that teaching includes the unjust being changed also, but ONLY from the "image of the earthy" to the "image of the heavenly", i.e. from a body of 'corruption' to a body of 'incorruption'. The fact that non-believers will also be 'resurrected' per Scripture cements this idea of their flesh body being changed to a spiritual body (the image of the heavenly). Men's traditions instead have taught us that the "image of the heavenly" and "spiritual body" state is ONLY for those in Christ Jesus, and has nothing to do with the unjust. They teach it as an automatic part of Christ's Salvation, so they don't apply that first change to the wicked at all, which is why they fail to see how Paul was covering a change also for the unjust in that 1 Cor.15 chapter. Here is one of the OT Scripture areas that Paul was pulling from when teaching in 1 Cor.15...
Isa 25:1-9
1 O LORD, thou art My God; I will exalt Thee, I will praise Thy name; for Thou hast done wonderful things; Thy counsels of old are faithfulness and truth.
2 For Thou hast made of a city an heap; of a defenced city a ruin: a palace of strangers to be no city; it shall never be built.
3 Therefore shall the strong people glorify Thee, the city of the terrible nations shall fear Thee.
The specific timing when the unjust will fear Him isn't discovered until later in the chapter...
4 For Thou hast been a strength to the poor, a strength to the needy in his distress, a refuge from the storm, a shadow from the heat, when the blast of the terrible ones is as a storm against the wall.
5 Thou shalt bring down the noise of strangers, as the heat in a dry place; even the heat with the shadow of a cloud: the branch of the terrible ones shall be brought low.
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And in this mountain shall the LORD of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.
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And He will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations.
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He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of His people shall He take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.
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And it shall be said in that day, "Lo, This is our God; we have waited for Him, and He will save us: This is the LORD; we have waited for Him, we will be glad and rejoice in His salvation."
(KJV)
That part in bold is about the time of Christ's return and the change all peoples still alive on earth will go through then. The Isaiah 25:7 verse has the idea of a wrapper or covering or veil that is over all nations and peoples being removed in that time. It even uses a Hebrew idea like a weaving or fusion of something being removed that is upon all peoples (i.e, the flesh). In connection with what Paul taught in 1 Cor.15, it's about the change from a body of corruption to a body of incorruption, and then with the heavenly being exposed to all peoples on earth.
The Hebrews 9:27 verse that all men are appointed to die once and then the judgment is not about the "second death"; it's about death of one's flesh of this world. The "second death" of Rev.20 is about death of those in incorruptible bodies at the end, cast into the lake of fire. It's those nations of Rev.20:7-9 that are outside... the "camp of the saints" upon the earth that represent the "dead" of Rev.20:5. They are going to exist throughout Christ's thousand years reign, outside the gates of the holy city, in flesh bodies? No, in bodies of 'incorruption', the "image of the heavenly". Whether here on earth, or in the heavenly, our soul requires a body. In the earthly dimension it's a flesh body; in the heavenly dimension it's a spiritual body. Even Satan and his angels in the heavenly have that image of the heavenly type body. The heavenly dimension is going to be revealed here on earth, to all peoples and nations at Christ's coming. This is why our Lord Jesus showed those of the "synagogue of Satan" will still exist, and come to bow at the feet of His elect of the Church of Philadelphia (Rev.3:9). That's Milennium timing.
In debating a doctrine in a civil and Christian manner, it is inappropriate, not to mention inaccurate, to throw all the opposers into a big box and judge them all as those who lack faith. As well, many and likely most who study Revelations, do not conform to the idea of a utopia in the last days. Where you getting these conclusions?
I'm not throwing all who oppose this into a big box, unless you mean those who heed men's traditions. And I'm certainly not judging anyone.
As for the idea of Utopia, it's an ancient doctrine of the children of darkness who work for the devil. The devil is who has that plan of setting up a Utopian society here on earth so he can try to be worshipped as God in His Place at Jerusalem. That plan has been on-going in secret for centuries, and only in today's final generation on earth has it been openly revealed, for those paying attention that is. It's about today's globalist movement, the "one world government" idea they have which is their label for it, not mine.
Can you climb into the collective minds of those who also love the Lord and study His word, and find fault just because they have a different viewpoint than yourself? Is this somehow supposed to invoke remorse, so that we change our minds and conform to your point of view? I hardly think so.
If you think that's what I'm trying to do then it only reveals your lack of understanding about this matter per God's Word. The fault belongs only to brethren that allow themselves to be deceived about Satan's Utopian ideals, especially since our Heavenly Father already revealed that plan to us within His Word, particularly in His Book of Revelation given through His Apostle John. What understanding on this matter per Scripture should evoke is Faith in God doing what He said He is going to do, and Faith that the prophecies for the end are going to come to pass just like He said. If some brethren want to be deceived about it, then that's up to them. But those not deceived have the duty to warn others about it per God's Word, whether others listen or not.
But I detect a similarity to what I am saying. There is indeed a place in the heavenly for the wicked. In the heavenly. This is called Hades, the place of the dead. Resurrection is not required for this place. In the first death, the physical body dies but not the soul. Those who are in Hades have another body. Though it is a spiritual body, it is not a resurrected body.
Well, there's only 2 types of bodies per God's Word, one is the "natural body" (flesh) and the other is the "spiritual body", per Paul in 1 Cor.15. So if the body the unjust dead have in that heavenly place of holding is not one of flesh, then.... it is.... a spiriutal type body, which is... the body of resurrection. I know it's difficult to admit that the spiriutal body state can belong to the wicked dead also, especially because of how most Churches teach that merely being raised from the dead means eternal Life in Christ Jesus. Yet, they have that idea wrong about the unjust that are raised also, but their soul part is still....'dead' and subject to the "second death" casting into the lake of fire. The souls of the resurrected 'dead' are still 'mortal' souls in that sense, not having 'put on immortality' through Christ Jesus. This is why our Lord Jesus gave a spiritual metaphor about the scribes and Pharisees being like whited sepulcures and graves, with what's inside being like dead men's bones. It's about the state of their souls inside their flesh body, their souls being 'dead' spiritually, without Christ and The Holy Spirit. That's the real meaning of the Rev.20:5 "dead"; it's about their liable to perish mortal soul state, which is the "this mortal" part Apostle Paul was covering in 1 Cor.15.
However, I do agree that the world is being brainwashed and prepared for the coming of the false messiah. But I assure you that anyone who belongs to Christ will not be fooled. He knows how to keep and preserve those who are His.
True, Christ's elect will not be deceived by that false messiah. But not every believer on Jesus Christ is in that state of understanding today. So if you know all this, then it's part of your job to help them to understand this.