Seems I missed the edited version of your reply.
well, what springs to mind is tithing where one is "fed," and there are similar analagies for flood i guess, plus i think it has been pretty well established that there was no world-wide flood, although flood myths saturate human consciousness? Which imo even plays into the concept, in a way that is kind of hard to get maybe...its easy to imagine we are all on some eternal journey, and in a sense we even are perhaps, but "eternal" ends when one dies, most likely, so "worldwide flood" becomes a marker for a kind of self deception, like...believing literally the creation account, as if there were literal trees and talking snakes and witnesses to it all recording it, or bad example maybe...nothing wrong with believing all that literally if one wants, dont get me wrong.
Jesus did validate scripture for how it cannot be broken, meaning what is written is true. He did a lot of reference to the O.T. scripture in refuting the Jews; even when they sought to condemn His disciples in Matthew 12:1-7 for profaning the sabbath day.
Believe in a literal flood too, fine, only the story of Noach (Noah was a girl btw, is a girl's name) plays...divinely well as a kind of divider between...our ancestors and us, lets say, as the name even indicates. Fwiw youll get a whole bunch of Jewish stuff in search there @ Noach, so i would keep the salt handy lol
Not when scripture testify Noah by male pronouns.
im already aware that the real book of Jasher was lost, but that does not make it, the real one, suspect or fraudulent? I mean youre reading an english Bible right now right, and its mostly crap
The KJV is not. Try reading that one, relying on Him to see the meat in His words for discerning good and evil by it.
i agree, and believed that for most of my life. It was only recently that i noticed made coats instead of slew goats myself. Would such an event have been described in more detail? Again, imo the story is ambiguous on purpose, so that those who require blood can find it if they wish. Esau is here to get a chance too imo. Even those who believe Jesus died for their sins might still be saved later iow, if they allow Jacob to pass through
Any story can be seen ambiguous by how people speak today. Do they not sometimes give general vague references that hearers know what they are talking about without going into detail? Like "I turned the light on in the room." Just because the detail is left out in how he did that, doesn't mean people can fathom how he did it by what they know of in their lives today in ow they turned on the lights in a room.
oh, theres many compiles of those already, i could copypaste one i guess yeh...
Books mentioned in the Bible that are not part of the "Today's Bible"
Looking for references of Jesus and Paul referring to lost books... nothing from Jesus, but from Paul as per epistles he had written and sent by reference earlier to the Corinth.
As for the missing epistle to the Laodiceans, the epistle is actually entitled the Book of Philemon. These verses connect it.
Colossians 4:15 Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house. 16 And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea. 17 And say to
Archippus, Take heed to the ministry which thou hast received in the Lord, that thou fulfil it.
Philemon 1:11 Paul, a prisoner of Jesus Christ, and Timothy our brother, unto Philemon our dearly beloved, and fellowlabourer, 2
And to our beloved Apphia, and
Archippus our fellowsoldier, and to the church in thy house:
Anyway, that reference from Paul about an earlier epistle to the Corinthians is about the only one I can find from that link you are talking about, but I doubt there is any such lost book or epistle around claiming to be that earlier epistle to the Corinthians.
well now we're back to talking about the forgeries and the plagiarisms, dont much care about those, but imo it is interesting that all of Christs titles were ripped off from the Caesars, and the Pharaohs before them, "king of kings, lord of lords, saviour, messiah, son of God," all of them. Even "the virgin will 'be with child'" comes to have a diff meaning than we assign to it, as those then contemporary to when the phrase was written would have heard something other than we hear, Athena worship being referenced iow. Which to a believer today comes across as like blasphemy or whatever i guess, but after all the Centurion was praised for his faith yeh
so iow it isnt at first, yes, and for many it might not ever be, but to one reading their Bible the evidence against that will finally become overwhelming imo.
but in my experience Death, More Abundantly and life, more abundantly just dont mix, just like in the story of Jacob and Esau basically
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. 14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
Ephesians 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love. 17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,