We will be like Him but we will NOT be God .....and we are not God now.We will be the exact same as Christ.
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We will be like Him but we will NOT be God .....and we are not God now.We will be the exact same as Christ.
You know that @Hidden In Him always loves to make a memorable scene.
Alright, then let's unpack it.
1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit, he taketh it away: and every [branch] that beareth fruit, he cleanseth it, that it may bear more fruit.
3 Already ye are clean because of the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; so neither can ye, except ye abide in me.
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same beareth much fruit: for apart from me ye can do nothing.
6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatsoever ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; and so shall ye be my disciples.
9 Even as the Father hath loved me, I also have loved you: abide ye in my love.
This passage speaks of Christ as the Vine and His disciples the branches. These are two distinct and separate entities in this passage, meaning the two remain distinct in spiritual reality as well. Yes or no?
You know that @Hidden In Him always loves to make a memorable scene. And he flubbed it up again. He is currently making hay of something Robert never stated or believes in. He made it up again. He posted twice if you did not miss it the first time a definition of Monism according to him. All one-sided as usual to suit his own needs. He presented an outliner, one of a dozen or more definitions that just so happens to appeal to him because it reads OCCULTISM all over it.
The vine and branches are metaphorical, yes, but you're skipping over the main point Jesus was making: We have to "abide" in Him, and His words have to "abide" in us. We abide in His love (and love is oneness).
Are you actually worth it today? Think about it and try not to think too highly of yourself as you wield your plastic toy sword around. I'm guessing you are a really a scared man and runs from any confrontation that is justified against you. I will not go any further...So you will reference me but not address me directly. I love this trick. What now, APAK? I'm "harassing" you if I respond to it because you preferred to talk about me with others rather than address me directly? What happened to my response to Post #75, which I have asked for three times now.
I see what you mean now my good brother.Look it up my friend . There are many seeker friendly churches .
Think rick warren and others . They basically entertain the flesh and wont feed bible doctrine
they entertain them right to hell fire and yet dont realize tis what they do .
Look up the term seeker friendly .
God is the Creator. The creation is not God.From a source I had that introduces Spinoza's view on monism.
Spinoza’s idea was that everything we know to exist is God or rather within God, and has appeared because there is no choice in the matter. There is no intent or purpose behind it, it’s just the nature of ‘God’ to be the universe. And so Nature, being God, just acts. He thought that what others call God is Nature acting because that is the inherent quality of Nature, with no personal aspect. The existence of the universe is not a manifestation of ‘God’s’ potency, but is the manifestation of ‘God’ and the two can’t be separated.
We don't canonize them because we only canonize the life and teachings of Jesus Christ. That doesn't mean I don't respect their opinions.No good. Edward does not honor the epistles as the word of God.
"Being in" and "being" Christ are two separate positions. One is Biblically sound, the other is not.
Edward, let me ask you again then: On what verses/ passages in the gospels do you base the teaching that we are Christ?
I would most certainly consider the apostles as part of His body, and if Edward does not consider the New Testament epistles they wrote to be the word of God then it must mean he thinks they were operating outside of it, at least in this, while he himself operates within it.
Did you die on the cross? Was your blood pure enough to cleanse the sins of the world?
What in this case makes it clear to you that you are Christ?
Matthew 24:5 says this:
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
That means you're not and you can't be.
In fact, until pressed, your response was to come out in full favor of what he teaches
while telling me I have no idea what the gospel is.
It makes me ask you the same question I asked APAK, and this question is specific: Where do your sympathies lie?
Think about it and try not to think too highly of yourself as you wield your plastic toy sword around.
I'm guessing you are a really a scared man and runs from any confrontation that is justified against you. I will not go any further...
Obviously, my sympathies do not lie with you and your gigantic, delicate ego.
Blessings in Christ Jesus! A reminder to put on the full Armour of God.
Is this all you people have? Heaven's sakes...
Ok, I'm done for the day. Maybe I'll return to this madness tomorrow, maybe not. The truth is obvious to anyone with eyes here.
So have you judged the hearts of those who wrote the "Veridican gospel"?I can't judge them. I often do... but I shouldn't. I can't say if one is in Christ or not. That's not my place. But it doesn't matter, in this case, because Veridicans read the Bible. I quote the Bible all the time. We canonize the life and teachings of Jesus Christ because we follow ONLY Him. So as a church founded on the concept of following ONLY Jesus Christ, we can't canonize a letter written by a man who was a Christian. Otherwise, why not canonize Joel Osteen's latest book? We can take it under advisement, certainly. We can learn from it. I agree with just about everything Paul says--but that's not the point. At the end of the day, it's the Life and Teachings of our Teacher who is THE WAY and THE TRUTH and THE LIFE.