bbyrd009
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well, at least unless one changes their mind, rightSo we have chosen, and so shall it be.
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well, at least unless one changes their mind, rightSo we have chosen, and so shall it be.
You mention 'kepha', the Aramaic word translated, 'Cephas' in John 1:42: It is H03710 (Strongs No) and is used by the Holy Spirit in two places in the Old Testament: in Job 30:6 and in Jeremiah 4:29. In both cases the context refers to the finding of a hiding place among the rocks. The word kepha meaning a hollow rock, therefore suitable for hiding among, being light and insubstantial.
Hello there, @bbyrd009,well, at least unless one changes their mind, right
Yes...ain't it great?!well, at least unless one changes their mind, right
ah, we see something differently? Bc i also meant that @ "change their mind," maybe i implied something else thoWe all come from different walks of life, and have been influenced along the way by the doctrines of a variety of differing denominations, it is no wonder that we see things differently. So, a change of mind is not a bad thing, if that change of mind is the result of the operation of the Holy Spirit, opening our minds to the truth revealed in His word, untarnished by doctrinal influences.
ah, we see something differently? Bc i also meant that @ "change their mind," maybe i implied something else tho
are you doctrine-free then?
lol, and if so, are you married?
Hi, @bbyrd009,
I am not doctrine-free, no. So, is the suggested proposal no longer valid?
(Actually, yes, I am well and truly married!) - for nearly 50 years no less!!
Maybe we should go over Protestant terms that are not found anywhere in the Old or New Testament. "Hollow rock". That's bizarre. "You are Peter and upon this hollow rock I will build my Church." That makes no sense. And where in scripture does Jesus mix his metaphors?@BreadOfLife
Thank you for the extra reading.
You mention 'kepha', the Aramaic word translated, 'Cephas' in John 1:42: It is H03710 (Strongs No) and is used by the Holy Spirit in two places in the Old Testament: in Job 30:6 and in Jeremiah 4:29. In both cases the context refers to the finding of a hiding place among the rocks. The word kepha meaning a hollow rock, therefore suitable for hiding among, being light and insubstantial.
This has nothing to do with anything.Job 30:6 So that they dwell in dreadful valleys, In holes of the earth and of the rocks.
You are fast forwarding by about 3 decades. Peter never taught that, it's not in any of his letters because it was never necessary. Everyone knows that Jesus is head of the Church, but at the same time Jesus conferred this distinction as ROCK on an earthly human person, but you haven't the faith to believe that. You make a false dichotomy. Or maybe you don't believe Jesus had any authority to make Peter head of all the Apostles, because you have little faith. Instead, you settle for second rate reformist opinions and man made traditions and act like you have the truth because you have a Bible and an opinion. The Bible teaches clearly that Peter is the Rock on which His church was built, the change came due to 16th century Protestant prejudice.[/QUOTE]Peter was so called not because of firmness of character, but the reverse. Peter was an Elder in the Church (1Peter 5:1), and he was the Apostle who, of all others, teaches so clearly that Christ is the Rock on which His church was built.
This is completely false.@BreadOfLife
Thank you for the extra reading.
You mention 'kepha', the Aramaic word translated, 'Cephas' in John 1:42: It is H03710 (Strongs No) and is used by the Holy Spirit in two places in the Old Testament: in Job 30:6 and in Jeremiah 4:29. In both cases the context refers to the finding of a hiding place among the rocks. The word kepha meaning a hollow rock, therefore suitable for hiding among, being light and insubstantial.
Peter was so called not because of firmness of character, but the reverse. Peter was an Elder in the Church (1Peter 5:1), and he was the Apostle who, of all others, teaches so clearly that Christ is the Rock on which His church was built.
In Christ Jesus
Chris
Peter? What does he know?Hello there,
I believe that the Church which is the Body of Christ was formed, following the laying aside, temporarily, of Israel in unbelief at the end of the approximately forty year period covered by 'The Acts of The Apostles'.
During that period opportunity was given for Israel to repent, and initiate the return of Christ, as Peter announced in Acts 3:19,20:-
'Repent ye therefore, and be converted,
That your sins may be blotted out,
When the times of refreshing shall come
From the presence of the Lord:
And He shall send Jesus Christ,
Which before was preached unto you: ... '
I have to go now, back again later, God willing.
In Christ Jesus
Chris
ah, but i can't help but feel that you do not mean "a slogan that i needlepoint and put in a frame, and hang on the wall" there nowI am not doctrine-free, no.
ha well at least he could hear the cock crowing i guessbut at the same time Jesus conferred this distinction as ROCK on an earthly human person
um, do you mean the Holy Bible, or the real one back there in the Lex? no offenseThe Bible teaches clearly that Peter is the Rock on which His church was built
popcornThis is completely false.
According to Thayer's Greek Lexicon and Strong's Exhaustive Greek Concordance - "Cephas", the transliteratioon of the Aramaic "Kepha" simply means "ROCK".
It doesn't mean "hollow" Rock or "small" Rock or "pebble" or anything else.
It means "ROCK."
@kepha31
@BreadOfLife
Thank you for your input. I have nothing to add, and nothing to retract. The Word of God must be the arbitur on this matter.
In. Christ Jesus
Chris
No - this is a linguistic matter.@kepha31
@BreadOfLife
Thank you for your input. I have nothing to add, and nothing to retract. The Word of God must be the arbitur on this matter.
In. Christ Jesus
Chris