Grailhunter
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Not as a nation, but believing Jews are in fact in the New Covenant. Paul says he is proof of that.
Anyone that believes in the new covenant. Practicing Jews are not.
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Not as a nation, but believing Jews are in fact in the New Covenant. Paul says he is proof of that.
No that is not what the Bible says....read it again.If you want to be justified by the law, that is when you must keep the entire law to the letter.
No only if you receive circumcision.Only if you are keeping the law for justification.
I'm not into law-keeping, period. I know the Reformed tradition - which tends not to distinguish between the church and Israel - tends to be.I suspect your definition of legalism springs from the traditional church's resistance to getting tattoos, right? Telling someone it's not allowed to get a tattoo is not legalism. Saying you have to keep the command to not get a tattoo in order to earn justification is legalism.
What's that supposed to mean?
It's also said, some people are so open minded that their brains fall out.
Legalism or legalistic are not Bible terms, so I do not really like to speculate on what it would be Biblically. When most in the church today call someone a legalist, it is because they dare to call something they or someone they know sinful. I mean, don't they know we are not under the law anymore but grace? Don't they know we are not to judge people? The whole anti-legalism doctrine is false.The term is used often. But what exactly is it according to Scripture?
We are lawful and law-abiding citizens of the commonwealth of Israel. We keep God's law and commandments by faith of salvation.
In 2 Cor 3, When Scripture says the 'letter kills', it was speaking of the law and of the Old Covenant itself, pertaining to that which was written upon stone tables.
These tables were called the ministry of condemnation and death and have been done away, and the new testament is the ministry of the Spirit and righteousness.
The weakness of the law was the flesh in that it could not justify anyone, only condemn that that transgressed. It could not minister faith and life, but only death and condemnation to them that did not obey.
It was called the law of carnal commandment (Heb 7:16), in that it only could command outward obedience, not inward faith, but the new covenant is made with the power of an endless life.
And so inward faith and Spirit of life is the power of God that begins salvation and outward obedience to His law and commandments.
Therefore, 'legalism' would be holding to the law outwardly only, without inward faith, seeking to be justified by the outward works of the law only.
Legalism is therefore without faith nor Spirit nor life, but only outward obedience. It is a hard and cold way to exist.
It's good to obey but far better to believe, love, and obey: O how love I thy law! it is my meditation all the day. (Psalms 119)
And since legalism is keeping there works of the law with faith, then it will always end in failure of transgression; therefore, the true legalist is without mercy, neither for himself nor for others, and they are forever looking for transgression to condemn.
And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage. (Gal 2)
But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless. (Matthew 12)
Obeying the letter only brings certain condemnation and death: walking after the flesh.
Walking after the Spirit is life fulfilling the righteousness of God, with blessing in this life and forever.
Here is your full quote...I means that the doctrines of demons can be so enticing, people hold on to them for dear life.
Cultures change and make laws not applicable to a certain culture simply because that culture doesn't practice what a certain law governs.The Mosaic Law does not adjust for cultures or time periods.
Only if you are seeking to be justified by the law.And again the Mosaic Laws are all or nothing...no options.
...for justification.No only if you receive circumcision.
You fail to understand many laws are already kept for us and don't have to be literally kept by us. James knew this. So we know he was not saying you have to keep every single letter of the law to be considered a law keeper. You have to keep whatever remains to be kept of the law to be considered a law keeper.Those that keep some laws are in violation of all the Laws.
Surely you are into 'do not murder', 'do not steal', 'do not bear false witness', etc., right?I'm not into law-keeping, period. I know the Reformed tradition - which tends not to distinguish between the church and Israel - tends to be.
Believing Jews are. So why do you say Jews are not in the New Covenant?Anyone that believes in the new covenant. Practicing Jews are not.
With civil laws that is very true.Cultures change and make laws not applicable to a certain culture simply because that culture doesn't practice what a certain law governs.
Only if you are seeking to be justified by the law.
Find the scriptures for options and or alternatives...for justification.
Why is this so hard for you to grasp?
You fail to understand many laws are already kept for us and don't have to be literally kept by us. James knew this. So we know he was not saying you have to keep every single letter of the law to be considered a law keeper. You have to keep whatever remains to be kept of the law to be considered a law keeper.
I have already made this clear. If you are practicing Judaism, you are not in the New Covenant.Believing Jews are. So why do you say Jews are not in the New Covenant?
KJV Matthew 22:36-40I have already made this clear. If you are practicing Judaism, you are not in the New Covenant.
KJV Matthew 22:36-40
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Does the practise of Judaism include loving God and neighbor? And if so, why does that not exclude anyone from partaking of the new covenant? Notice that I'm not suggesting you would disagree that those loving God and neighbor are included in the new covenant. Just interested in how you reconcile that seeming contradiction.