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Matthias

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close but not even close .
because satans right hand muslims believe in one god . ONLY the god they follow be satan .
OH yeah i said it for all to hear .
The requirement for salvation , for to be saved , to be a christain . GOTTA BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST .
And a rainbow holding koran kissing jesus AINT NO JESUS CHRIST .
All jews and all gentiles who rejected HIM as THE CHRIST , they all gonna wail ON JESUS day .
A fact this all inclusive anti christ interfaith generation better wake up and realize , BEFORE they all damned on HIS day .
I will not hear it
And i will not recieve yalls ecumeincal intefaith . Now you hear that and you hear it well .
I Expose that which is of anti christ . I kneel to JESUS CHRIST not anti christ and her ecumeincal false love harlot .

I’m not ecumenical.

I posted “monotheism” because I’m being told by a “Christian” member that Jesus never spoke of nor taught monotheism and that Christianity isn’t monotheistic.

One can be a monotheist and not be a Christian. One cannot be a Christian and not be a monotheist.
 
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What is necessary to be a Christian?
To be willing to be recreated into the image of our Creator. Surrendered and submitted to His Lordship.
sadly most christains believe in a form of inclusvism now .
Would you LIKE to know what this so called inclusive christian on this very site called me and why he called me it .
RELIGOUS extremist .
Because I actaully preached THE dire need to repent and beleive on JESUS to an athiest . YEAH
so much for that wicked intefeaith junk .
Now brakelite i feel the need to perhaps encourage you .
SO here it is .
This all inclusive eucmeincal anti christ intefaith generation gonna have to kill me .
I dont kneel to A HARLOT nor her intefaith or her anti christ .
WE KNEEL TO JESUS CHRIST , not anti christ . so they just gonna have to do what they feel they have to do to me .
but i dont buy lies and i dont buy a harlots love and i dont buy that which is of anti christ . I Expose it . hope all will do the same .
 
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This all inclusive harlot love generation gonna have to kill me my friend . cause i absolutely
Aint gonna kneel to its anti christ intefaith peace lie .
Am i a religious extremist . Oh wait i already got called that
by so called false inclusive so called christian .
And would you LIKE to know why . cause how dare i do the unthinkable and most hateful thing known .
I preached JESUS to an athiest . YEAH this generaiton been duped all right . And i dont buy lies .

I’m opposed to Christians killing Christians and non-Christians. That doesn’t make me ecumenical.
 
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I’m not ecumenical.

I posted “monotheism” because I’m being told by a “Christian” member that Jesus never spoke of nor taught monotheism and that Christianity isn’t monotheistic.

One can be a monotheist and not be a Christian. One cannot be a Christian and not be a monotheist.
Well at least be happy i am exposing the works of satan and his ecumeincal harlot .
But that is real good to hear that you have not bowed the knee to that ecuemenical harlot .
TELL ya , makes me feel real good to see one reject it too . Wish more would . JESUS preaching TIME in the building my friend .
HEAR O ISRAEL the LORD thy GOD is one . And that other god satan , yeah we wont be heeding that one .
 

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I’m opposed to Christians killing Christians and non-Christians. That doesn’t make me ecumenical.
OH me too . but have you noticed something yet . This ecuemcinal whore
has taken captive both sides to a lie now .
Her nar realm is co helper to her plan as well .
And the liberal left is as well .
THEY sold and they sell the same lie to both sides and to all religoins .
TO the right its sold under the guise of pro israel
and to the left its sold under the guise of pro palestine .
BUT ITS INTERRELIGIOUS dialgoue leads them all to THE SAME LIE .
Now this might seem hard to beleive
but satan right hand , satan left hand .
THINK two tier . one creates , one solves , AND YET ITS THE SAME agenda baby .
WE all being lied too and not only by the politicains on both sides
but by the protestant and catholic realm as well .
THE LIE . its here and many are believing it and many more are already being led right to it . the lie .
You have probably heard it . The lie . UNBELIF . the lie . oh its not necessary to have had to have believed on JESUS , the lie .
Oh God is in everyones religoin , THE LIE
the lIE that has called GOD a liar . cause he who beleives NOT the testmony that GOD gave of the SON
IS calling GOD a liar . And no , no no , its not okay TO DO THAT .
 

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OH me too . but have you noticed something yet . This ecuemcinal whore
has taken captive both sides to a lie now .
Her nar realm is co helper to her plan as well .
And the liberal left is as well .
THEY sold and they sell the same lie to both sides and to all religoins .
TO the right its sold under the guise of pro israel
and to the left its sold under the guise of pro palestine .
BUT ITS INTERRELIGIOUS dialgoue leads them all to THE SAME LIE .
Now this might seem hard to beleive
but satan right hand , satan left hand .
THINK two tier . one creates , one solves , AND YET ITS THE SAME agenda baby .
WE all being lied too and not only by the politicains on both sides
but by the protestant and catholic realm as well .
THE LIE . its here and many are believing it and many more are already being led right to it . the lie .
You have probably heard it . The lie . UNBELIF . the lie . oh its not necessary to have had to have believed on JESUS , the lie .
Oh God is in everyones religoin , THE LIE
the lIE that has called GOD a liar . cause he who beleives NOT the testmony that GOD gave of the SON
IS calling GOD a liar . And no , no no , its not okay TO DO THAT .
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sadly most christains believe in a form of inclusvism now .
Would you LIKE to know what this so called inclusive christian on this very site called me and why he called me it .
RELIGOUS extremist .
Because I actaully preached THE dire need to repent and beleive on JESUS to an athiest . YEAH
so much for that wicked intefeaith junk .
Now brakelite i feel the need to perhaps encourage you .
SO here it is .
This all inclusive eucmeincal anti christ intefaith generation gonna have to kill me .
I dont kneel to A HARLOT nor her intefaith or her anti christ .
WE KNEEL TO JESUS CHRIST , not anti christ . so they just gonna have to do what they feel they have to do to me .
but i dont buy lies and i dont buy a harlots love and i dont buy that which is of anti christ . I Expose it . hope all will do the same .
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“What is it that makes a Christian? This is a question which has troubled the church from the very beginning, and it has commonly been answered by drawing up a creed or confession to which all would-be members had to assent. Jesus did not do this.”

(E.F. Scott, The Lord’s Prayer, p. 55)
 

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Here where we get into deep water. Yes, there is but one God. 1 Corinthians 8:6. But God sent His only begotten Son to the earth to redeem and free mankind from sin and it's consequences. That God sent His Son as His representative tells us that even to this day, we need and have a Mediator. That Mediator, the Son of God, inherited all the divine attributes and characteristics of His Father, and therefore can justifiably and correctly be addressed as God. In order to be a Christian, one must accept, aside from what I wrote previously, that Jesus is a true ontological Son of the Father. I am not talking about a trinity. I'm talking about what the apostle John wrote about and set out to prove in his Gospel and letters.

“30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. ”
John 20:30-31 KJV
 
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I've been a Christian for well over thirty years, and I am the treasurer and a trustee of the Pentecostal Christian church that I've been attending for about 32 years, but I've recently been banned from taking part in discussions in all the 'Christians Only' forums, because the CyB Team think that my "theological position" is "contrary to the historic Christian understanding of the person and nature of Jesus Christ as revealed in scripture". So my understanding of Scripture is not the same as theirs, and because discussion participants can't defend from Scripture their belief in the Trinity doctrine, they resort to requesting that the people with a different understanding of Scripture are banned from posting. This doesn't seem to obeying Paul's direction in 2 Timothy 2:24-25 WEB:

(24) The Lord’s servant must not quarrel, but be gentle towards all, able to teach, patient,​
(25) in gentleness correcting those who oppose him: perhaps God may give them repentance leading to a full knowledge of the truth,​

So because my "doctrinal position falls outside the boundaries of the forum’s Christian Statement of Faith", my account has been moved to the "Other Faiths" membership group. I was informed by a private discussion, to which I replied, but for some reason my reply was deleted from the private discussion some days later. Hmm.

I don't understand, or approve of, banning someone from discussions just because their "beliefs are incompatible with the biblical doctrine upheld by this forum". Why shouldn't anybody be allowed to suggest different interpretations of Scripture to how you interpret it? There is only one true interpretation, and we should all be seeking to find that truth, and we should be able to defend what we believe the truth to be using the Bible - 2 Timothy 3:16-17 UASV:

(16) All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;​
(17) so that the man of God may be fully competent, equipped for every good work.​

Paul preached the simple Gospel, which he declares as - 1 Corinthians 15:1-8 WEB:

(1) Now I declare to you, brothers, the Good News {Gospel} which I preached to you, which also you received, in which you also stand,​
(2) by which also you are saved, if you hold firmly the word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain.​
(3) For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,​
(4) that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,​
(5) and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve.​
(6) Then he appeared to over five hundred brothers at once, most of whom remain until now, but some have also fallen asleep.​
(7) Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles,​
(8) and last of all, as to the child born at the wrong time, he appeared to me also.​

So to be a Christian you simply need to believe that Jesus, the Messiah (Christ), died to pay for our sins so that we may have eternal life, and that God raised Jesus to life again three days later.

Now Paul also wrote that Jesus will not return for the Church until after there has been a falling away from the truth (apostasy) - 2 Thessalonians 2:3 UASV:

(3) Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,​

A large part of that apostasy is the teaching of the Trinity, teaching a new Gospel different from what the Apostles taught. Paul warned, Galatians 1:6-9 WEB:

(6) I marvel that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ to a different “good news”;​
(7) and there isn’t another “good news.” Only there are some who trouble you, and want to pervert the Good News of Christ.​
(8) But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you any “good news” other than that which we preached to you, let him be cursed.​
(9) As we have said before, so I now say again: if any man preaches to you any “good news” other than that which you received, let him be cursed.​

But even in the early days of the Church, people started adding other requirements in order to be a Christian, e.g. Acts 15:1 WEB:

(1) Some men came down from Judea and taught the brothers, “Unless you are circumcised after the custom of Moses, you can’t be saved.”​

Jesus condemned the Jewish religious leaders for adding to God's Word and imposing additional requirements upon the Jews, e.g. Mark 7:6-13 WEB:

(6) He answered them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, ‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.​
(7) But they worship me in vain, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’​
(8) “For you set aside the commandment of God, and hold tightly to the tradition of men — the washing of pitchers and cups, and you do many other such things.”​
(9) He said to them, “Full well do you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition.​
(10) For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother;’ and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him be put to death.’​
(11) But you say, ‘If a man tells his father or his mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is Corban, that is to say, given to God”;’​
(12) then you no longer allow him to do anything for his father or his mother,​
(13) making void the word of God by your tradition, which you have handed down. You do many things like this.”​

Imposing the requirement to believe in a Trinitarian doctrine that did not exist in the early Church, and was not taught by Jesus and the Apostles, is the religious leaders making the same kind of mistakes that the Jewish religious leaders made.

This might be my last post on this forum. I'm going to sign up on another Christian forum that does allow discussion of the Trinity.


Romans 10:8-9 WEB
(8) But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth, and in your heart;” that is, the word of faith, which we preach:​
(9) that if you will confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.​

2 Timothy 4:2-4 WEB
(2) preach the word; be urgent in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with all patience and teaching.​
(3) For the time will come when they will not listen to the sound doctrine, but, having itching ears, will heap up for themselves teachers after their own lusts;​
(4) and will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn away to fables.​

Note that the genius Sir Isaac Newton deduced that the Trinity was a false doctrine. From Google AI Overview:

Sir Isaac Newton rejected the Trinity because his rigorous scriptural analysis convinced him that God the Father is one supreme, singular deity, Jesus Christ is a subordinate created being, and the traditional Trinitarian doctrine was a deliberate fourth-century corruption of early Christian history.​
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Scriptural and Historical Analysis​
    • Strict Monotheism: Newton believed that the Bible teaches absolute monotheism, identifying only the Father as the supreme "One True God".
    • Subordination of Christ: He viewed Jesus as the Son of God and Savior, but argued that Christ was subordinate to, created by, and entirely dependent upon the Father.
    • Historical Corruption: Newton concluded that 4th-century church leaders—specifically citing Bishop Athanasius—falsified historical documents and texts (such as 1 John 5:7) during the Arian controversy to invent the Trinity at the Council of Nicaea.
Implications of His Beliefs​
    • Secret Writings: Because denying the Trinity was illegal and considered heresy in England during his lifetime, Newton kept his extensive theological manuscripts strictly private.
    • Evading Ordination: His unorthodox views caused him to refuse holy orders in the Church of England, a requirement for Cambridge fellows that he was uniquely granted a royal exemption to bypass.

I am a real Christian, I believe in trinity of God, but not in the absoluteness of its essentialness to the gospel for salvation. Believers from the beginning did not have to have understanding of it for their salvation, it just isn't in the gospel message, though it gets put into creeds. There can be discussion of relevant scripture passages for it. But I want to express my understanding and accept that you would be a Christian. It is the case that there is some lack of tolerance and censorship that happens with that, which I see.

I lost something I was responding here to someone's post with, now gone though. I was saying I would post more about this to answer any interest.

I have an amazing personal account, most would likely not believe it, but it is very long, too much to give it now for posting in here, but I can say, without getting to how it is so, I am an older man, and yet I can go out, and walk far, and I can go fast, more than earlier in my life, and I am sure no one would be outwalking me. So it is opposite to that, for me. Maybe sometime somewhere I will give my account in a fuller way.